Guest guest Posted July 3, 2002 Report Share Posted July 3, 2002 Prior to Consciousness 7/21/1980 Q: Why did I take this form? Maharaj: Because you were a fool. If you had known anything about it, you would not have come into this world. Q: First I hadn't any form, isn't that so? M: Yes, even now you don't have any form. It is not your shape, it is the shape of the seed. Q: Isn't it the nature of the seed that it grows, like a tree grows out of a seed? M: It is its nature. Q: So, I am not to blame. The seed must be foolish. M: Because the seed is foolish it has come like this. The seed is the original foolish state, yet what big titles are given to that seed. The seed is transient, and the whole world is full of seeds. All the five elements, all the objective world, is in that seed. You are not the seed - you are the observer of the seed. For many centuries the Western people were not interested in spiritual matters, but now they have realized that, in spite of all their riches, they cannot get real peace, so they are searching for the truth now. The nearer you get to the truth, the more you lose interest in worldly affairs. Such a one will not have any particular interest in the world, but will act like and ordinary person. The sum and substance of spirituality is nothing but to come to a decision, make a judgment, about the Self, Body and the world - what is it? You must first dispose of this question. This world is filled up with selfishness due to your association with the body. Once you know what these principles are, then you dissolve the personality, and in the process that selfishness vanishes because you are no more an individual. Q: How can I be in my true state and loose my fear? M: You are already in you true state. Because of the mind, duality comes in and therefore you are afraid. The association with the body and mind is because of love for the body-mind; that is going to go away, therefore everyone is afraid of death. Q: The world is given to me by my senses. When you go beyond that state of "I Amness" do you experience the world? M: There is no question of going beyond. I was never born, will never die. Whatever is - is all the time. Going beyond it only and idea meant to remove all other ideas you have accumulated. You think about birth. Do you know anything about your birth? Q: No, I do not know that I am born. I feel that I am really not born and yet the world seems so realm M: Do not worry about the world. First start from here: the "I Am," and then find out what is the world. Find out the nature of this "I". Q: Why find out about the "I" Which is not real? M: It is the seed from which everything comes out. If the seed Is not there, the universe in not. How have you come into this so-called objective world: Here everything will be wiped out. I invite you in you own interest, to go home. Sponsor self_realization_dialogues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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