Guest guest Posted July 17, 2002 Report Share Posted July 17, 2002 Dear Gabriele: You know that I agree with you that it is the intension of the seeker that determines not only the method used, but also if one is fated to reach the "goal". It works for the Ramana Bhaktis even if they don't meditate and just talk to Ramana. It will work also if fated for the 'No effort' faction but they will have to trip over the right rock. I guess that is grace. Even this foolish ego knows that nothing can happen without the whole universe making it happen, so how can anyone say they are doing anything. I thank all that responded to these questions. They were prompted by a member in very good standing on this Ramana group, who said that he/she would get some clarity concerning their Bhakti Ramana path. After this, back to typing in some stuff from the teachings of the sages. I want to present for the programming faction a response to a question on the Self Realization Dialogues group. >From Self Realization Dialogues group.. Question: "This whole spiritual trip is only reprogramming..ok then, so where is the manual? Alton answers: This is a question I cant refuse, because I truly believe that what I am about to tell you is the truth and will work. Here is the manual. It says: 1. Full time practice is the essential element of the re-programming. It can be done in sitting meditation or part sitting meditation and during all waking hours. 2. Find a technique that attracts you to keeps you in the present time and does not let your mind wander, without it being sanctioned by your intentions. You may use Ramana's techniques to start with or Nisargadatta's or the Vipasana meditation teachings. As long as it focus' on being in the present time it will work if you make a 100 percent commitment, without putting a time limit to obtain the results. What will happen is that you notice that you are not reacting as in previous times. You will notice that you have more energy to get things done and start to balance the books on the completed cycle side. You will notice that you have more love for everyone than you did before. You realize that your happiness or unhappiness is just a product of your thoughts and that your thoughts are not you. Those great benefits will motivate you to continue re-programming. The re-programming will give you a level of detachment, as you will see that the observer is not what is being observed. You will notice that you don't have to defend when personally attacked and that the attacks are mostly a projection of the attacker. You will notice that your happiness level in increasing and that you may actually like living and this life, but don't be fooled by your new happiness if it stops you from continuing to write the program that will free you from body-mind identifications. You must make a full commitment and give up slowly or quickly everything unnecessary in your life. Duty should remain of prime importance as not fulfilling it may prevent further re-programming. That is because the mind will become overly focused on failing to keep those tacit or actual contracts. When the re-programming gets to a certain level it will do its work by itself and the illusory ego will vanish along with the desire to realize the Self. So it will essentially comply with the "no effort" factions" premise of "you cant get there with effort". If this is not clear then I will find another manual for you or give further explanations if requested. Aloha, Alton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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