Nisargadatta..Faith in Guru's words the most important

[Guest guest]

Q: Would Maharaj talk about the grace of the guru?

M: It is the intensity of the faith you have in the guru's words that is most

important; once that is there, the grace flows automatically. The faith in the

guru is based on the consciousness within, faith in one's Self. The love for

this beingness I am trying to direct to a higher level. What is lasting is this

love for the Self, on which temples have been built. This Christ-consciousness

is existing; is it faith in a man, Christ was crucified, but that universal

consciousness which was his lives today.

Q: It there a mean of releasing or elevating this love?

M: That is a vritti {mental modification}, that is part of the process. There

are various action, practices, etc. Even in daily life you have certain

procedures; are they not the puja {worship} for the consciousness?

Q: Maharaj is talking about the kind of love that transcends consciousness

itself?

M: The breeze that comes out of the universal consciousness is what keeps other

kinds of love alive. Most people limit their love to an individual.

Q: How does one expand into universal love?

M: Understand the false as false, that's all you can do; you cannot turn one

thing into another.

Q: Doesn't love lose its vitality when it loses its object.

M You are asking from the body level, you are not going back to your state

before the body came into existence. Before the word "love" came into existence,

you are. Prior to this identification with the body, you must recede into That.

Since I have found my true permanent state I have no need for any of this, so

I am just waiting for it to go. In that state of fullness there is not need at

all. I have had this state of fullness after I met my guru; if I hadn't met my

Guru I would have lived and died as a man.

My association with my Guru was scarcely for two and a half years. He was

staying some 200 kilometers away, he would come here once every four months, for

fifteen days; this is the fruit of that. The words he gave me touched me very

deeply. I abided in one thing only; the words of my Guru are the truth, and he

said, "You are the Parabrahman {the Supreme; the Absolute}." No more doubts and

no more questions on that. Once my Guru conveyed to me what he had to say I

never bothered about other things - I hung on to the words of the Guru.

I know exactly what this present state of affairs is, how transient it is,

and I also know that eternal state. I have no use for this ephemeral state. Now

when you return to your country you will be with the qualification of a jnani.

Tell me, what meaning do you attach to the word jnani?

Q: I think some of the Indians who have been here longer are more qualified,

they might talk on it.

M: The present crop of Indians are following the Westerners who have developed

so much on the material side. They are not after spirituality - they would like

to follow Western scientific development, to imitate you. Because "I Am That" is

certified by Maurice Frydman they will read it; the books by Jean Dunn will have

more significance also. I am not short of any knowledge relating to God or

spirituality because I have fully known what this child-principle is. When you

get to know that ignorant child-principal, beingness, you will not fall short of

anything in your spiritual or worldly pursuits.

 

>From Prior to Consciousness.. editor Jean Dunn 4/4/80