Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Paragraph 36 One should realize the Self by the Eye of Wisdom. Does Rama need a mirror to recognize himself as Rama? That to which the "I" refers is within the five sheaths (physical, vital, mental, knowledge- experience, and bliss), whereas the scriptures are outside them. Therefore, it is futile to seek by means of the study of scriptures the Self that has to be realized by summarily rejecting even the five sheaths. COMMENTS No amount of reading will bring Self-realization. It is like looking in a mirror, only somehow deeper. As you trace the source of your own sense of "I" you will find that it is something deeper than you first thought. This sense of "I," of existence, or reality, is deeper than this body, these senses, this life force, this mind. To find it, it must be realized for oneself. Aides to this are study of scriptures, and negation (rejecting the five sheaths). Why is it to be found through this negation? Since it is already present, what the seeker needs to do is to REMOVE THE FALSE IDEAS, and then … what is found? -------------------------- Your comments are invited. We are Not two, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Hi Richard, I just read this post with interest. Because as you say the Scriptures can provide the other form of wisdom the small "self" realization. And reading, yes reading can too. I don't call it reading books of course, but DK calls it "spiritual reading." And when used properly can lead to the recognition of the eternal present, and "Presence" whatever that IS to those who experience it. The mindfulness of the Now. Net *************** RamanaMaharshi, "richard_clarke95125" <r_clarke@i...> wrote: > Paragraph 36 > > One should realize the Self by the Eye of Wisdom. Does Rama need a > mirror to recognize himself as Rama? That to which the "I" refers is > within the five sheaths (physical, vital, mental, knowledge- > experience, and bliss), whereas the scriptures are outside them. > Therefore, it is futile to seek by means of the study of scriptures > the Self that has to be realized by summarily rejecting even the five > sheaths. > > COMMENTS > > No amount of reading will bring Self-realization. It is like looking > in a mirror, only somehow deeper. As you trace the source of your own > sense of "I" you will find that it is something deeper than you first > thought. This sense of "I," of existence, or reality, is deeper than > this body, these senses, this life force, this mind. To find it, it > must be realized for oneself. Aides to this are study of scriptures, > and negation (rejecting the five sheaths). > > Why is it to be found through this negation? Since it is already > present, what the seeker needs to do is to REMOVE THE FALSE IDEAS, > and then … what is found? > -------------------------- > Your comments are invited. > > We are Not two, > Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2002 Report Share Posted July 23, 2002 Dear Net, Certainly reading can be a great part of a spiritual practice. There is a traditional Advaita Vedanta teaching of main proximate aides to liberation: SRAVANA, MANANA, NIDIDHYASANA This is translated as: Listen, learning, study, Reflection on whqat has been heard or studied (to analyze why and how the teachings are true). Profound comtemplation and mediation(to remove contrary tendencies of the mind). So reading can be an aide, as the first component of SRAVANA, MANANA, NIDIDHYASANA. For the reading to be of benefit, the seeker must turn what is read to spiritual experience and knowledge. Thanks for your comments. We are Not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, "netemara888" <netemara888> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I just read this post with interest. Because as you say the Scriptures > can provide the other form of wisdom the small "self" realization. > And reading, yes reading can too. I don't call it reading books of > course, but DK calls it "spiritual reading." And when used properly > can lead to the recognition of the eternal present, and "Presence" > whatever that IS to those who experience it. The mindfulness of the > Now. > > Net > > *************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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