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Dear Alton and All,

dear Alton, I like your posting out of No Mind very much.

But what Sri Lakshaman says here - I also have heared from other

teachers - that a living guru is absolutely necessary, is not in full

agreeable to me as he means in this context with "living" a guru in

the body. This would clearly mean that we all who trust only in the

guiding presence of Guru Ramana are wrong and we have to look for

another guru in the body. So - now???

In HIM

Gabriele

 

> Sri Lakshmana further insists that only a living human Guru has

enough power to bring a devotee to Self-realization. Some times he

will admit that in very rare instances the unmanifest Self may bring

about Self-realization, but he will usually add that this can only

happen with devotees who have virtually completed sadhana in previous

lives.

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> Swamy: A living human Guru is essential for Self-realization. It

is the Self, acting through the medium of the Guru, which finally

destroys the ego, and only the human Guru can act as the medium. When

> the Guru gives up his body, the Self can no longer use him to

destroy devotees' egos.

> Question: Ramana Maharshi realized the Self without any effort and

without a Guru. How was this possible?

> Swamy: He was a very advanced soul who had almost completed his

sadhana in his previous lives.

> Question: If the Guru cannot provide help after his death, what is

the devotee to do when the Guru gives up the body?

> Swamy: If the devotee wants to realize the Self he should try to

find another Guru who has realized the Self. Other wise it will be

extremely difficult.

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