Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Dear Alton and All, dear Alton, I like your posting out of No Mind very much. But what Sri Lakshaman says here - I also have heared from other teachers - that a living guru is absolutely necessary, is not in full agreeable to me as he means in this context with "living" a guru in the body. This would clearly mean that we all who trust only in the guiding presence of Guru Ramana are wrong and we have to look for another guru in the body. So - now??? In HIM Gabriele > Sri Lakshmana further insists that only a living human Guru has enough power to bring a devotee to Self-realization. Some times he will admit that in very rare instances the unmanifest Self may bring about Self-realization, but he will usually add that this can only happen with devotees who have virtually completed sadhana in previous lives. > > Swamy: A living human Guru is essential for Self-realization. It is the Self, acting through the medium of the Guru, which finally destroys the ego, and only the human Guru can act as the medium. When > the Guru gives up his body, the Self can no longer use him to destroy devotees' egos. > Question: Ramana Maharshi realized the Self without any effort and without a Guru. How was this possible? > Swamy: He was a very advanced soul who had almost completed his sadhana in his previous lives. > Question: If the Guru cannot provide help after his death, what is the devotee to do when the Guru gives up the body? > Swamy: If the devotee wants to realize the Self he should try to find another Guru who has realized the Self. Other wise it will be extremely difficult. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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