Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 - viorica weissman RamanaMaharshi Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:16 AM [RamanaMaharshi] How stupid I am ? How stupid I am in my cult Harsha ? And how coward ? Dear Vicki, Bless you, perhaps this is helpful to you somehow to express your upset feelings here, where you feel safer to do so. I'm sorry you felt criticized (by a few), tho I do not wish to engage in any instant replay of all that was said and by whom, please do bear in mind that Harsha was not there, nor said anything to you. He would not call you a coward or say you are stupid, or in a cult. Please do not give the impression he has done these things. Again, I am sorry for your hurt feelings. I cannot speak for Harsha himself, as to his views of the scope or intent of an open satsangh, as in open to a variety of views, but the list description does not describe it as presenting solely the teachings of Ramana there. So while it perfectly appropriate that you moderate your list as you see best, others may not have the same focus. Nor am I here to defend the list, or what happened there yesterday, or behavior of other members, as I am not sure this discussion of Harsha's list is topical, or really belongs here in the first place. I do know that Harsha has been in the midst of moving his family and travelling back and forth and also preparing for the start of a new teaching term. No one else is moderating the list at this time, either. Perhaps he may find time to address your concerns and the situation, still I would wonder if here is the best place for that. I wish you peace, Vicki, but not to repress your feelings for a false peace. Just try to be as accurate to the facts as you can. I wish I could be more helpful, but I simply cannot speak for a whole list or Harsha. With love, Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Dear v, As a seeker, your (our) task to to give our heart and mind to the teachings and the practice. Anything other does not bring peace. You may have noticed that I now mainly read this list and do not respond. I suspect that this is best for me. To engage in dialogs (unless we are solid in the Truth within) can be risky for the seeker. It is hard to avoid assertion (of ego and one's sense of ego- identity). We love the Truth that Ramana taught. He also taught us that we are to find it within. That is perhaps where our attention is best used. Of course, even an upsetting interaction with others can aide the seeker. Who is it that is reacting to the upset? Who do I hold myself to be that I react this way? You have the love of Ramana within you. That is all that is needed. WE are Not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, "viorica weissman" <viorica@z...> wrote: > Dear Gloria , > > Thank you for your letter. > > Just a few words. > > What is going on on that list is not going to do > any good to me. On the contrary. > > I passed some other disputations in the past also and > I was alone . I was left alone always like yesterday . > > > You realize what the weight of Ramana's words is > and how absurd can other people seem when saying > the same things or using the same words as if coming > from themselves . > > > They don't seem to realize the tremendous lack > of proportion - supposing that when it is about > Ramana I lose my sense of humor , but if those > people take their own words so high then they > lost their sense of humor too . > > > It is not difficult to discern mental stuff from real teaching. > Mental teaching discharged on others is tireful and brings > no peace . And even worse - it brings disputes and > controversies, conflicts and even deep hurt. > > This happened not only once so I ask , if there are > conflict and confrontations - is this a satsangh ? > > It is a discussion list alright , where people write what > they want , talk what they want , bring themselves > how much they want . But they declare themselves > spiritual authorities and they are not joking . > Were they joking , it could have been fun. > But it isn't . > > And those people form the active part of the list > who give the line of the list . And they give a line > of mental intellectual understanding and endless > talking and play mental human logic on their > intellectual understanding. > > What about me or others like me who don't want > to play or pretend ? > > What about me who took seriously Harsha as a Ramana > devotee whose only aim is Ramana's teaching and actually > what happens on the list is not that ? > > And as far as we know , mental stuff is not what Ramana > would have blessed . > > > Well ... > > The Stupid Cultist of again , > > (as those who said what they said and say > what they say are the main contributors > of the list who form as it is today) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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