Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 I am a new member on this list and am deeply disappointed with some of the postngs and nature of interaction. Regards Rajkumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Dear Rajkumar, > "krish_madhv" <krish_madhv> wrote: > I am a new member on this list and am deeply > disappointed with some > of the postngs and nature of interaction. I'm an old member who has been away for a while. I'm surprised to see so much argument and unhappiness here. This is unusual. The atmosphere in this list is normally austerely reverential. People have always been friendly and supportive and loving in an unostentatious way. I think the list will return to its true form soon. This list has always been a quiet place. I think there was general agreement that messages on the list should help make our minds quiet. People avoided provoking each other and causing troublesome emotions in each other, because we understood that we are all engaged in a sadhana that aims at quieting the mind. Bhakti stirs up amazingly powerful emotions, thoughts, and images. It's natural to want to open the mouth and let words pour out. But this may not be helpful to other people. Perhaps we should ask, before we post a message here, "Would somebody have stood up in the hall in Sri Ramanasramam and said this in front of Bhagavan during his lifetime?" Best regards, rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 RamanaMaharshi, "bhakta0" <editor@r...> wrote: Hello, Sorry to write this and get your reactions on it. I am now feeling it is my ego that is sad and disappointed. I am being judgemental beacause of my ego. I am putting myself into an comparative and judgemental(superior) suitiation. If we are to react in a Ramana way would we just ignore, leave the group, ? Rajkumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Dear Rakjumar, You ask how to react in a Ramana way. Hmmm. In other words, what would Bhagavan say? It seems presumptuous to try to speak for him, but on the other hand, one of the things we learn from the big Talks book is that during his lifetime, in the Old Hall where he gave satsang, his devotees often shouted out answers to questions posed to him by newcomers. They were able to do this because he gave the same answers over and over again. This seems like such a case. The answer he would give, I think, is that you shouldn't spend any time at all worrying whether your ego is judgmental. Instead, you should investigate the question, "Who is worried that the ego is judgmental?" The thought that "I am being judgmental" is just a thought. It's just another thought in the endless chain of thoughts that continues to unfold. The goal here is to escape from this chain. > I am now feeling it is my ego that > is sad and disappointed. Yes. > I am being judgemental beacause of my ego. Not only that -- the new concern that you are too judgmental, is also ego! The ego is merely an endless stream of thoughts of exactly this type. "I am too much this. I am too much that. I am bad. I am good. I should change. I should become something else" -- all this is ego. Sri Ramana's method for escaping from the thoughts is to keep the attention on one particular thought, the "I-thought." The "I-thought" is the persistent feeling that there is a "me" deep inside us that is doing things. Therefore, he advised people to use each new unwanted thought in the unending stream of thoughts as an opportunity to return the attention to the I-thought. The precise technique is to ask yourself, when each new thought arises, "Who is having this thought?" In this case, you would ask, "Who is worried about feeling superior and judgmental?" All that matters is the sadhana. Keep your eye on the goal. The goal is to attain an effortless thought-free state in which your mind can be pulled back into its source, the heart, while you are awake and alert. > If we are to react in a Ramana way > would we just ignore, leave the > group, ? If the group helps you do the sadhana, then stay. If it interferes, then leave. The goal of your voluntary efforts, ultimately, is to be thought-free during every waking minute. Best regards, Rob RamanaMaharshi, "krish_madhv" <krish_madhv> wrote: > RamanaMaharshi, "bhakta0" <editor@r...> wrote: > Hello, > Sorry to write this and get your reactions on it. > I am now feeling it is my ego that is sad and disappointed. > I am being judgemental beacause of my ego. I am putting myself into > an comparative and judgemental(superior) suitiation. > If we are to react in a Ramana way would we just ignore, leave the > group, ? > > Rajkumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Dear Rajkumar, I just noticed that I accidentally typed your name wrong in my previous post. Please accept my apologies. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 Dear Rajkumar: Sorry for the difficult interactions. Please be a little patient things will settle down again. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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