Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 It is inevitable, I suppose, that in an ashram some people will end up quarrelling with others. It is also inevitable that outsiders will find some pretext to quarrel with the ashram. Sri Bhagavan taught us all to stay away from disputes that were none of our business, and in particular, to avoid taking an interest in matters that were solely the concern of the ashram management. Once, for example, some awkward problems concerning the ashram management cropped up. Without being directly concerned, I was worried about them, as I felt that failure to solve them satisfactorily would impair the good name of the ashram. One day two or three devotees went to Sri Bhagavan and put some of these problems before him. I happened to enter the hall while they were talking about it, and he immediately turned to me and asked me why I had come in at this time and why I was interesting myself in such matters. I did not grasp the meaning of the question, so Sri Bhagavan explained that a person should occupy himself only with that purpose with which he had originally come to the ashram. He asked me what my original purpose had been. To receive Sri Bhagavan's grace,' I replied. Then occupy yourself with that alone,' he said. After a pause he continued by asking me whether I had any interest in matters concerning the ashram management when I first arrived. I told him that I had not. Then,' he said, 'concentrate on the original purpose of your coming here.' >From Power of the Presence by David Godman ( Reminiscences by Kunju Swami) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Rishi, Well timed post. The only aim of a seeker ought to be their own practice. Disputes or assertions do not contribute to the lessening of ego and ego-identifications. It is the removal of ego that brings freedom and inner peace. We are Not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, "Rishi" <rishikesh_m@s...> wrote: > It is inevitable, I suppose, that in an ashram some people will end up quarrelling with others. It is also inevitable that outsiders will find some pretext to quarrel with the ashram. Sri Bhagavan taught us all to stay away from disputes that were none of our > > business, and in particular, to avoid taking an interest in matters that were solely the concern of the ashram management. > > > > > > Once, for example, some awkward problems concerning the ashram management cropped up. Without being directly concerned, I was worried about them, as I felt that failure to solve them satisfactorily would impair the good name of the ashram. One day two or three devotees went to Sri Bhagavan and put some of these problems before him. I happened to enter the hall while they were talking about it, and he immediately > > turned to me and asked me why I had come in at this time and why I was interesting myself in such matters. I did not grasp the meaning of the question, so Sri Bhagavan explained that a person should occupy himself only with that purpose with which > > he had originally come to the ashram. He asked me what my original purpose had been. > > > > To receive Sri Bhagavan's grace,' I replied. > > > > Then occupy yourself with that alone,' he said. > > > > After a pause he continued by asking me whether I had any interest in matters concerning the ashram management when I first arrived. I told him that I had not. > > > > Then,' he said, 'concentrate on the original purpose of your > > coming here.' > > > > From Power of the Presence by David Godman > > ( Reminiscences by Kunju Swami) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Dear Richard and Rishi: Well said. I noticed with my self even when I deserved reproach, if I did not respond with defending, the fires went out quickly. Even when one gets the posts via email, they can quickly delete them without reading the ones that are disruptive. Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya, Copio Ramana formerly Alton RamanaMaharshi, "richard_clarke95125" <r_clarke@i...> wrote: > Rishi, > > Well timed post. The only aim of a seeker ought to be their own > practice. Disputes or assertions do not contribute to the lessening > of ego and ego-identifications. It is the removal of ego that brings > freedom and inner peace. > > We are Not two, > Richard > > RamanaMaharshi, "Rishi" <rishikesh_m@s...> wrote: > > It is inevitable, I suppose, that in an ashram some people will end > up quarrelling with others. It is also inevitable that outsiders will > find some pretext to quarrel with the ashram. Sri Bhagavan taught us > all to stay away from disputes that were none of our > > > > business, and in particular, to avoid taking an interest in matters > that were solely the concern of the ashram management. > > > > > > > > > > > > Once, for example, some awkward problems concerning the ashram > management cropped up. Without being directly concerned, I was > worried about them, as I felt that failure to solve them > satisfactorily would impair the good name of the ashram. One day two > or three devotees went to Sri Bhagavan and put some of these problems > before him. I happened to enter the hall while they were talking > about it, and he immediately > > > > turned to me and asked me why I had come in at this time and why I > was interesting myself in such matters. I did not grasp the meaning > of the question, so Sri Bhagavan explained that a person should > occupy himself only with that purpose with which > > > > he had originally come to the ashram. He asked me what my original > purpose had been. > > > > > > > > To receive Sri Bhagavan's grace,' I replied. > > > > > > > > Then occupy yourself with that alone,' he said. > > > > > > > > After a pause he continued by asking me whether I had any interest > in matters concerning the ashram management when I first arrived. I > told him that I had not. > > > > > > > > Then,' he said, 'concentrate on the original purpose of your > > > > coming here.' > > > > > > > > From Power of the Presence by David Godman > > > > ( Reminiscences by Kunju Swami) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2002 Report Share Posted September 5, 2002 RamanaMaharshi, "Rishi" <rishikesh_m@s...> wrote: >It is also inevitable that outsiders will find some pretext to quarrel with the ashram. ))) the "Us & Them" game, huh? Yep, seen it around these holy parts pretty regularly, although we didn't expect it at a site committed to Beloved's Inquiry -- shows up in force around the cultish belief in self and other, you & me, divided on some imaginary pretext of presumed separation in the gaze of the same One we all love to say we love but few ever dare to take seriously, but would like to think so, if only the infidels would just be quiet so they could think! Hey, it's actually rather a religious cliche, whether around any saint or sinner, the game goes on, wheel spins, roles dance and prance upon a stage of division called Maya, lovers show up, speaking in tongues not commonly heard, triggers called anger, jealousy, and hate flare, soon rocks are lifted into hands that perhaps once touched other hands in innocence, the group nods assent, the image of their fear shimmers in the air, the lovers begin twirling, praising Love, praising the Very One before them now, the Radiant One, rocks are kisses raining down in light, then a nervous silence as everyone gets very quiet, sure in their minds they've done right, but maybe not. LoveAlways, b "O Arunachala ..... O Bliss born out of love! What is there for me to say? Your will is my will and your will is itself my happiness." ~ Arunachala Pathikam Verse 2 "Having inquired into (the nature of) all the states, (wakeful, dreaming and deep sleep), and ever holding steadfastly at heart to that state supreme which is absolute and which is free from illusion, play in the world, O Raghava, the hero! You have realized that in the heart which is the substratum of truth of all appearances. Therefore, without ever abandoning that (right) perspective, play in the world just as you like. That which is the source of all, that in which all live, and that into which all finally merge, is the heart." ~ Absolute Consciousness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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