Guest guest Posted September 7, 2002 Report Share Posted September 7, 2002 The (what I am calling "space" between thoughts ) is not of the mind.. it is not thinking and you don't think upon it..You just finish the thought in your mind at the time (you usually never finish one they overlap) you are than at the end of the thought ..Most people think around a thought never finish a thought, have a completed thoought .. The more you name things and make fancy and lofty efforts to meditate the more you are caught in the mind..A knife can't cut itself . You cannot use the mind on the mind without being stuck in the mind. Thinking is merely a convenience and an activity that sequents itself in time, but words have been given an importance that makes people think they are this thinking. they fancy there is a mindspace that they can run back and forth in to retrieve this or that.There is no space there just matter and time. If you quit naming things and see "as is" you will rid yourself of conditioning. but you have to do it not think about it..same as art you learn to do by doing. Music is nice to go by when playing an instrument but the paper music and its interpretation is not the music the music is harmonic sound made by doing. Barb viorica weissman [viorica] Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:48 AM RamanaMaharshi Cc: SriArunachala [RamanaMaharshi] Yoga - [12] Q: Why should one adopt this self-hypnotism by thinking on the unthinkable point? Why not adopt other methods like gazing into light, holding the breath, hearing music, hearing internal sounds, repetition of the sacred syllable Om or other Mantras? Maharshi: Light-gazing stupefies the mind and produces catalepsy of the will for the time being, but it secures no permanent benefit. Breath control temporarily benumbs the will but it is not permanent. It is the same with listening to sounds, unless the Mantra is sacred and secures the help of a higher power to purify and raise the thoughts. Q: We are advised to concentrate on the spot in the forehead between the eyebrows. Is this right? Maharshi: Everyone is aware- ‘I am’. Leaving aside that awareness one goes about in search of God. What is the use of fixing one’s attention between the eyebrows? It is mere folly to say that God is between the eyebrows. The aim of such advice is to help the mind to concentrate. It is one of the forcible methods to check the mind and prevent its dissipation. It is forcibly directed into one channel. It is a help to concentration. But the best means of realisation is the enquiry ‘Who am I?’ The present trouble is to the mind and it must be removed by the mind only. from Be As You Are David Godman Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi- List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/RamanaMaharshi Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 Hi Barbara, This sounds interesting but I don't understand what you mean by "finishing" a thought. Best regards, Rob - "Barbara Hilal" <barbara <RamanaMaharshi> Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:16 AM RE: [RamanaMaharshi] Yoga - [12] > The (what I am calling "space" between thoughts ) is not of the mind.. it is > not thinking and you don't think upon it..You just finish the thought in > your mind at the time (you usually never finish one they overlap) you are > than at the end of the thought ..Most people think around a thought never > finish a thought, have a completed thoought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2002 Report Share Posted September 10, 2002 I mean we continual are thinking the thoughts overlap , we never finish even one thought . that is why the mind is full and continuously busy. never experiencing a pause between thoughts or space. Paying complete attention to the thought in your mind and ending it .. we have temporarily ceased thinking..so when I say hold the interval that is what I mean.. It is not an effort rather an intent..thought stops desire like samsara sets in but one doesn't react to it then one experiences desirelessness and enters a death like state..that it is scary but necessary for the realization that we live between these opposites.. this releases one from opposites and thinking becomes a choice not an imposition. Rob Sacks [editor] Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:52 PM RamanaMaharshi Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Yoga - [12] Hi Barbara, This sounds interesting but I don't understand what you mean by "finishing" a thought. Best regards, Rob - "Barbara Hilal" <barbara <RamanaMaharshi> Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:16 AM RE: [RamanaMaharshi] Yoga - [12] > The (what I am calling "space" between thoughts ) is not of the mind.. it is > not thinking and you don't think upon it..You just finish the thought in > your mind at the time (you usually never finish one they overlap) you are > than at the end of the thought ..Most people think around a thought never > finish a thought, have a completed thoought... Sponsor Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi- List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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