Guest guest Posted September 6, 2002 Report Share Posted September 6, 2002 >From No Mind I Am The Self.. David Godman The experience of the Self #5 Swamy: In sound sleep the mind (the `I') enter into the Heart but it remains in an ignorance of the Self, which cannot be described in words. Just before waking, the mind, which is the `I' –thought rises from the Heart to the brain in a split second through a passage called the amrita nadi. Then the mind experiences the world through the five senses and thinks that it is real. In Self-realization, the pure mind, without thoughts and problems, returns back to the Heart-cave through this same passage. As the mind tries to pass through the narrow way, the Self pulls the mind towards it and kills it. After the death of the `I' the Self will remain, one without a second; it is eternal peace and bliss. As there is no mind, there is no world, no birth and no death. Just as ornaments are not apart from the gold they are made of, even so, the world is not apart from the Self. As the Self is all-pervading, it is beyond time, direction and the three states of waking, dreaming and sleeping. Editor: The knowledge that one has transcended the waking, dreaming and sleeping states is on of the classic hallmarks of Self- realization. This means that even while his body sleeps he maintains full Self-consciousness. Saradamma: I used to sleep a lot when I was young, but now I hardly need any sleep at all. Three or four hours a night is usually enough for me. Swamy is the same. Even when I sleep it is not the unconscious experience that most people mean when they talk, about sleep. If somebody asks me a question I can answer it while I am still asleep. The Self never looses consciousness and it is always aware of the three states of waking, dreaming and sleeping passing before it, without being affected by them. Editor: Saradamma had a brief experience of the Self on a number of occasions before her final realization but she is rather skeptical of devotees who claim to have had similar experiences. More to follow in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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