Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 >From No Mind I Am The Self.. David Godman Q: Some people claim to have had brief experiences of the Self. Is this very common? Saradamma: Many people make such claims but I doubt if more than a few of them have had a genuine experience of the Self. Because most people have never had a direct experience of the Self they think that blissful or peaceful states of mind are glimpses of the Self. The only real experience of the Self occurs when the mind enters the Heart. Imagine a cave with a fierce demon in it. If you go in to investigate, one of three things may happen: the demon may kill you, you may escape through the cave entrance, or you may break your head on the cave roof while you are trying to escape and die as a result. Taking the mind into the Heart-cave is a little like this. Either the Self destroys the mind completely, or the mind enjoys the bliss of the Self for a while before escaping to the brain again, or the strain of the experience is too much for the body and death results. In the last case there will probably be a rebirth in one of the higher worlds. Most people who claim to have experienced the Self have not even taken their minds near to the entrance of the Heart-cave. And even if the mind does go into the Heart, there is still an `I' which is experiencing the bliss of the Self. The true experience of the Self only happens when the mind is completely absent, either temporarily, as in samadhi, or permanently, as in Self-realization. Both of these experiences are very rare. It is very difficult to make the mind go into the Heart. Mostly it is too afraid of its own death to even approach the entrance. The mental experiences of peace, bliss and stillness, which devotees claim to experience usually, take place outside the Heart. They are all in the mind. People who think that these experiences are the reality of the Self are only deluding themselves. More to follow in the concept of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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