Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 Dear Rob: You are a font of Sri Ramana stories and his teachings. Either you have an eidetic memory like Sri Ramana or you have a great filing system. This last one may convince my wife that these stories are not the imagination of Sri Ramana's devotees. Every time I relate something that blows my mind or opens my heart my wife say that the devotees of Guru's make up many of these stories. I say that is generally true but not with Ramana.. Thank much, Loving Sri Ramana more and more each day. RamanaMaharshi, "Rob Sacks" <editor@r...> wrote: > Somebody asked me in a private message to send a > longer quotation about food from "Power of the > Presence Part 3." Since it is now typed for that > purpose it might as well be posted here too: > > ................................ > > From "Power of the Presence Part 3" by David Godman. > The narrator of this section is Krishna Bhikshu: > > On a new-moon day a group of very orthodox brahmins > came to the ashram from town. They wanted to pay their > respects to Bhagavan first and then have a bath and > return to the town for tarpanam, a new-moon ceremony in > which one worships one's ancestors. As the ashram was > situated between several burial grounds, the place was > considered polluting. After leaving it a bath was > mandatory. Also, because of restrictions due to the new > moon, the tarpanam ceremony and the proximity of burial > grounds, they would not be able to eat food in the > ashram. Bhagavan greeted them all and invited them to > have breakfast with him. How could they refuse? They > went to the dining hall, sat down and were served > uppuma, a wheat dish cooked with spices and fried > vegetables, and coffee. After the breakfast Bhagavan > was explaining the nutritional and dietetic virtues of > onion. Somebody remarked that onions carry their odour > with them into every food. > > 'Not at all,' said Bhagavan. 'If you fry them in castor > oil they lose their odour completely. Could you smell > the onions in the uppuma? Have I not succeeded in > making them odourless?' > > The poor brahmins, who never touched onions and garlic, > were shocked. What saved them from serious trouble with > their caste was the fact that what they did or ate was > at Bhagavan's bidding! > > An even more extreme example springs to mind. A > devotee once brought some expensive halva for Bhagavan. > The sweets were arranged on a large tray and put before > Bhagavan on the ground. A dog came in and touched the > sweets with hisnose. One of the inmates got furious > and tried to drive the dog away. > > Bhagavan got up and shouted at the devotee, 'Get out! > What right have you to drive this dog away? On what > grounds do you stop a dog from eating? Does this halva > belong to you?' > > He cut the halva into pieces, ate some himself and > distributed the rest with his own hands. All the people > present had to eat it as his prasad whether they wanted > to or not. > > Bhagavan was not always so insistent. My younger > brother once came to the ashram. He was not in the > habit of drinking tea or coffee and generally refused > when he was offered some. When the afternoon cup of > coffee was distributed, he asked to be excused. He was > told that he must drink it, for all food given in the > ashram, he was informed, was Bhagavan's prasad and > cannot be refused. > > My brother went straight to Bhagavan and said, 'They > say that coffee is your prasad. I am not accustomed to > coffee and I do not like it.' > > Bhagavan answered, 'I never ask for coffee. Whether I > like it or not, people make me drink coffee, say that > coffee is my prasad, and then drink coffee to their > heart's content. They also induce others to drink it, > saying that if they refuse, they refuse my prasad.' > (From pages 74-75.) > > Some of his positions on orthodoxy seemed at first > sight to be a little perplexing. Onions and garlic > were used in the ashram kitchen when it was known that > many orthodox brahmins would not eat food that had been > prepared with them. Major Chadwick once asked Bhagavan > if eating onions was an impediment to spiritual > progress, and Bhagavan agreed that it was. Chadwick, > though he was not a Hindu and was not therefore subject > to sastraic injunctions, immediately gave them up, but > many of the ashram's brahmins continued to eat them in > the dining room. > > How could such a situation come about? I think the > answer lies in the freedom Bhagavan gave to his > devotees to choose their own path. It is true that he > allowed a good deal of liberty to his followers in the > matter of the food they ate, but that does not > necessarily mean that he approved of what they were > doing. Bhagavan's way was to influence rather than > command. The true command, according to Bhagavan, > should come from within, leading to voluntary and not > enforced right action. Bhagavan never ordered Devaraja > Mudaliar, for example, to become a vegetarian, but when > the latter was wondering whether he should take this > step, he asked Bhagavan's advice. He was not sure > whether a vegetarian diet would contain adequate > nourishment for him. This was after he had been a > devotee for many years. Bhagavan assured him > categorically that he would not suffer if he gave up > non-vegetarian food. > > There was a still more extraordinary case in the early > years of the ashram. Some of the sadhaks used to take > bhang [cannabis] and they would offer it to Bhagavan > first to justify themselves. Bhagavan would accept it > when offered. It had no effect on him, since he had no > mind to be disturbed. (From pages 92-93.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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