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Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi was most tender with people who thought

themselves for some reason or other to be miserable sinners and who

went to him torn by repentance.

 

During summer evenings we used to sit in the open space near the

well. We would collect in the dining hall for dinner and come back to

the well. Suddenly, one day, a visitor started weeping bitterly, "I

am a horrible sinner. For a long time I have been coming to your

feet, but there is no change in me. Can I become pure at last? How

long am I to wait? When I am here near you I am good for a time, but

when I leave this place I become a beast again. You cannot imagine

how bad I can be-hardly a human being. Am I to remain a sinner

forever?"

 

 

Bhagavan answered: "Why do you come to me? What have I to do with

you? What is there between us that you should come here and weep and

cry in front of me?"

 

The man started moaning and crying even more, as if his heart were

breaking. "All my hopes of salvation are gone. You were my last

refuge and you say you have nothing to do with me! To whom shall I

turn now? What am I to do? To whom am I to go?"

 

Bhagavan watched him for some time and said, "Am I your guru that I

should be responsible for your salvation? Have I ever said that I am

your master?"

 

"If you are not my master, then who is? And who are you, if not my

master? You are my guru, you are my guardian angel, you will pity me

and release me from my sins!" He started sobbing and crying again.

 

We all sat silent, overcome with pity. Only Bhagavan looked alert and

matter-of-fact.

 

Bh: "If I am your guru, what are my fees? Surely you should pay me

for my services."

D: "But you won't take anything," cried the visitor. "What can I give

you?"

Bh: "Did I ever say that I don't take anything? And did you ever ask

me what you can give me?"

D: "If you would take, then ask me. There is nothing I would not give

you."

Bh: "All right. Now I am asking. Give me. What will you give me?"

D: "Take anything, all is yours."

Bh: "Then give me all the good you have done in this world."

D: "What good could I have done? I have not a single virtue to my

credit"

Bh: "You have promised to give. Now give. Don't talk of your credit.

Just give away all the good you have done in your past."

D: "Yes, I shall give. But how does one give? Tell me how the giving

is done and I shall give."

Bh: "Say like this: 'All the good I have done in the past I am giving

away entirely to my guru. Henceforth I have no merit from it nor have

I any concern with it.' Say it with your whole heart."

D: "All right, Swami, I am giving away to you all the good I have

done so far, if I have done any, and all its good effects. I am

giving it to you gladly, for you are my master and you are asking me

to give it all away to you."

Bh: "But this is not enough," said Bhagavan sternly.

D: "I gave you all I have and all you asked me to give. I have

nothing more to give."

Bh: "No, you have. Give me all your sins."

D: The man looked wildly at Bhagavan, terror stricken. "You do not

know, Swami, what you are asking for. If you knew, you would not ask

me. If you take over my sins, your body will rot and burn. You do not

know me, you do not know my sins. Please do not ask me for my sins."

And he wept bitterly.

Bh: "I shall look after myself, don't you worry about me," said

Bhagavan. "All I want from you is your sins."

 

For a long time the bargain would not go through. The man refused to

part with his sins. But Bhagavan was adamant.

 

Bh: "Either give me your sins along with your merits, or keep both

and don't think of me as your master."

 

In the end the visitor's scruples broke down and he

declared: "Whatever sins I have done, they are no longer mine. All of

them and their results, too, belong to Ramana."

 

Bhagavan seemed to be satisfied. "From now on there is no good nor

bad in you. You are just pure. Go and do nothing, neither good nor

bad. Remain yourself, remain what you are."

 

A great peace fell over the man and over us all. No one knows what

happened to the fortunate visitor; he was never seen in the Ashram

again. He might have been in no further need of coming.

 

Hari Aum !!!

 

 

 

 

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om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

Dear Sri Loving aka Alton,

Thank you immensely for this posting. It is one of the many episodes of Grandeur

and Compassion of Ramana that shake us completely to surrender. It is a replay

of the episode in Mahabharata where the great warrior KarNa, famous for his

generosity and charity, grieviously wounded by the arrows of his younger brother

Arjuna, is in the last moments of release from the body, in the battle field.

But KarNa's life lingers, not letting go of the body. Lord Vishnu (Krishna)

appears as a poor brahmin before him and asks KarNa for charity. KarNa says

"Alas you have come too late my friend, I have nothing more to give." Then the

brahmin asks as charity, all the puNyA, the merit of all the good he has done.

KarNa says "So be it, I give to you the merit of all the good I have done." This

act of "letting go", releases KarNa from his attachment to the doership of all

the good deeds and from the individuality of the doer. These episodes, one a

replay of the other, bring tears in my eyes. The compassion of the Guru is

unbounded indeed.

We are blessed to be reading about and talking about these episodes. And thanks

to Sri Alton's fingers which keyed this posting on "Give me all your merit."

om gurave namah

suri

Loving Sri Ramana <leenalton wrote:

 

Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi was most tender with people who thought

themselves for some reason or other to be miserable sinners and who

went to him torn by repentance.

 

During summer evenings we used to sit in the open space near the

well. We would collect in the dining hall for dinner and come back to

the well. Suddenly, one day, a visitor started weeping bitterly, "I

am a horrible sinner. For a long time I have been coming to your

feet, but there is no change in me. Can I become pure at last? How

long am I to wait? When I am here near you I am good for a time, but

when I leave this place I become a beast again. You cannot imagine

how bad I can be-hardly a human being. Am I to remain a sinner

forever?"

 

 

Bhagavan answered: "Why do you come to me? What have I to do with

you? What is there between us that you should come here and weep and

cry in front of me?"

 

The man started moaning and crying even more, as if his heart were

breaking. "All my hopes of salvation are gone. You were my last

refuge and you say you have nothing to do with me! To whom shall I

turn now? What am I to do? To whom am I to go?"

 

Bhagavan watched him for some time and said, "Am I your guru that I

should be responsible for your salvation? Have I ever said that I am

your master?"

 

"If you are not my master, then who is? And who are you, if not my

master? You are my guru, you are my guardian angel, you will pity me

and release me from my sins!" He started sobbing and crying again.

 

We all sat silent, overcome with pity. Only Bhagavan looked alert and

matter-of-fact.

 

Bh: "If I am your guru, what are my fees? Surely you should pay me

for my services."

D: "But you won't take anything," cried the visitor. "What can I give

you?"

Bh: "Did I ever say that I don't take anything? And did you ever ask

me what you can give me?"

D: "If you would take, then ask me. There is nothing I would not give

you."

Bh: "All right. Now I am asking. Give me. What will you give me?"

D: "Take anything, all is yours."

Bh: "Then give me all the good you have done in this world."

D: "What good could I have done? I have not a single virtue to my

credit"

Bh: "You have promised to give. Now give. Don't talk of your credit.

Just give away all the good you have done in your past."

D: "Yes, I shall give. But how does one give? Tell me how the giving

is done and I shall give."

Bh: "Say like this: 'All the good I have done in the past I am giving

away entirely to my guru. Henceforth I have no merit from it nor have

I any concern with it.' Say it with your whole heart."

D: "All right, Swami, I am giving away to you all the good I have

done so far, if I have done any, and all its good effects. I am

giving it to you gladly, for you are my master and you are asking me

to give it all away to you."

Bh: "But this is not enough," said Bhagavan sternly.

D: "I gave you all I have and all you asked me to give. I have

nothing more to give."

Bh: "No, you have. Give me all your sins."

D: The man looked wildly at Bhagavan, terror stricken. "You do not

know, Swami, what you are asking for. If you knew, you would not ask

me. If you take over my sins, your body will rot and burn. You do not

know me, you do not know my sins. Please do not ask me for my sins."

And he wept bitterly.

Bh: "I shall look after myself, don't you worry about me," said

Bhagavan. "All I want from you is your sins."

 

For a long time the bargain would not go through. The man refused to

part with his sins. But Bhagavan was adamant.

 

Bh: "Either give me your sins along with your merits, or keep both

and don't think of me as your master."

 

In the end the visitor's scruples broke down and he

declared: "Whatever sins I have done, they are no longer mine. All of

them and their results, too, belong to Ramana."

 

Bhagavan seemed to be satisfied. "From now on there is no good nor

bad in you. You are just pure. Go and do nothing, neither good nor

bad. Remain yourself, remain what you are."

 

A great peace fell over the man and over us all. No one knows what

happened to the fortunate visitor; he was never seen in the Ashram

again. He might have been in no further need of coming.

 

Hari Aum !!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Alton,

Hari Om.

Reading this posting was a very moving experience. It brings to life

the Maharshi's infinite love.

Somehow, I've read dozens of books on the maharshi, but have never

come across this episode. Do you have any idea, in which book does it

appear?

 

Regards,

 

Vikram.

**************************

 

 

RamanaMaharshi, "Loving Sri Ramana" <leenalton@h...>

wrote:

>

>

> Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi was most tender with people who thought

> themselves for some reason or other to be miserable sinners and who

> went to him torn by repentance.

>

> During summer evenings we used to sit in the open space near the

> well. We would collect in the dining hall for dinner and come back

to

> the well. Suddenly, one day, a visitor started weeping bitterly, "I

> am a horrible sinner. For a long time I have been coming to your

> feet, but there is no change in me. Can I become pure at last? How

> long am I to wait? When I am here near you I am good for a time,

but

> when I leave this place I become a beast again. You cannot imagine

> how bad I can be-hardly a human being. Am I to remain a sinner

> forever?"

>

>

> Bhagavan answered: "Why do you come to me? What have I to do with

> you? What is there between us that you should come here and weep

and

> cry in front of me?"

>

> The man started moaning and crying even more, as if his heart were

> breaking. "All my hopes of salvation are gone. You were my last

> refuge and you say you have nothing to do with me! To whom shall I

> turn now? What am I to do? To whom am I to go?"

>

> Bhagavan watched him for some time and said, "Am I your guru that I

> should be responsible for your salvation? Have I ever said that I

am

> your master?"

>

> "If you are not my master, then who is? And who are you, if not my

> master? You are my guru, you are my guardian angel, you will pity

me

> and release me from my sins!" He started sobbing and crying again.

>

> We all sat silent, overcome with pity. Only Bhagavan looked alert

and

> matter-of-fact.

>

> Bh: "If I am your guru, what are my fees? Surely you should pay me

> for my services."

> D: "But you won't take anything," cried the visitor. "What can I

give

> you?"

> Bh: "Did I ever say that I don't take anything? And did you ever

ask

> me what you can give me?"

> D: "If you would take, then ask me. There is nothing I would not

give

> you."

> Bh: "All right. Now I am asking. Give me. What will you give me?"

> D: "Take anything, all is yours."

> Bh: "Then give me all the good you have done in this world."

> D: "What good could I have done? I have not a single virtue to my

> credit"

> Bh: "You have promised to give. Now give. Don't talk of your

credit.

> Just give away all the good you have done in your past."

> D: "Yes, I shall give. But how does one give? Tell me how the

giving

> is done and I shall give."

> Bh: "Say like this: 'All the good I have done in the past I am

giving

> away entirely to my guru. Henceforth I have no merit from it nor

have

> I any concern with it.' Say it with your whole heart."

> D: "All right, Swami, I am giving away to you all the good I have

> done so far, if I have done any, and all its good effects. I am

> giving it to you gladly, for you are my master and you are asking

me

> to give it all away to you."

> Bh: "But this is not enough," said Bhagavan sternly.

> D: "I gave you all I have and all you asked me to give. I have

> nothing more to give."

> Bh: "No, you have. Give me all your sins."

> D: The man looked wildly at Bhagavan, terror stricken. "You do not

> know, Swami, what you are asking for. If you knew, you would not

ask

> me. If you take over my sins, your body will rot and burn. You do

not

> know me, you do not know my sins. Please do not ask me for my

sins."

> And he wept bitterly.

> Bh: "I shall look after myself, don't you worry about me," said

> Bhagavan. "All I want from you is your sins."

>

> For a long time the bargain would not go through. The man refused

to

> part with his sins. But Bhagavan was adamant.

>

> Bh: "Either give me your sins along with your merits, or keep both

> and don't think of me as your master."

>

> In the end the visitor's scruples broke down and he

> declared: "Whatever sins I have done, they are no longer mine. All

of

> them and their results, too, belong to Ramana."

>

> Bhagavan seemed to be satisfied. "From now on there is no good nor

> bad in you. You are just pure. Go and do nothing, neither good nor

> bad. Remain yourself, remain what you are."

>

> A great peace fell over the man and over us all. No one knows what

> happened to the fortunate visitor; he was never seen in the Ashram

> again. He might have been in no further need of coming.

>

> Hari Aum !!!

>

>

>

>

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Dear Vikram:

I thought is was great too. I sometimes worry about my sins also.

Viorica said that it came from

The Maharshi Newsletter Jul/Aug 1998 : That is all I know about it.

Maybe some knowledgeable members can give the original source if

there is one.

 

We just had a philoloshy professor over for dinner. We used to

meditate with him at the Zen center. I jokingly send him an email

signed Swami Alton and he asked how I got that title.

 

My question to anyone is how does one get the title Swami. Not that I

am an aspiring swami but just to know about it? All I aspire to is to

be able to place my attention on the attention so it eats itself up.

However I wont eat my heart out trying as I am a new vegetarian you

know.

 

Loving Sri Ramana,

aka Alton

 

RamanaMaharshi, "vikramrmehta" <vikramrmehta> wrote:

> Dear Alton,

> Hari Om.

> Reading this posting was a very moving experience. It brings to

life

> the Maharshi's infinite love.

> Somehow, I've read dozens of books on the maharshi, but have never

> come across this episode. Do you have any idea, in which book does

it

> appear?

>

> Regards,

>

> Vikram.

> **************************

>

>

> RamanaMaharshi, "Loving Sri Ramana" <leenalton@h...>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi was most tender with people who thought

> > themselves for some reason or other to be miserable sinners and

who

> > went to him torn by repentance.

> >

> > During summer evenings we used to sit in the open space near the

> > well. We would collect in the dining hall for dinner and come

back

> to

> > the well. Suddenly, one day, a visitor started weeping

bitterly, "I

> > am a horrible sinner. For a long time I have been coming to your

> > feet, but there is no change in me. Can I become pure at last?

How

> > long am I to wait? When I am here near you I am good for a time,

> but

> > when I leave this place I become a beast again. You cannot

imagine

> > how bad I can be-hardly a human being. Am I to remain a sinner

> > forever?"

> >

> >

> > Bhagavan answered: "Why do you come to me? What have I to do with

> > you? What is there between us that you should come here and weep

> and

> > cry in front of me?"

> >

> > The man started moaning and crying even more, as if his heart

were

> > breaking. "All my hopes of salvation are gone. You were my last

> > refuge and you say you have nothing to do with me! To whom shall

I

> > turn now? What am I to do? To whom am I to go?"

> >

> > Bhagavan watched him for some time and said, "Am I your guru that

I

> > should be responsible for your salvation? Have I ever said that I

> am

> > your master?"

> >

> > "If you are not my master, then who is? And who are you, if not

my

> > master? You are my guru, you are my guardian angel, you will pity

> me

> > and release me from my sins!" He started sobbing and crying

again.

> >

> > We all sat silent, overcome with pity. Only Bhagavan looked alert

> and

> > matter-of-fact.

> >

> > Bh: "If I am your guru, what are my fees? Surely you should pay

me

> > for my services."

> > D: "But you won't take anything," cried the visitor. "What can I

> give

> > you?"

> > Bh: "Did I ever say that I don't take anything? And did you ever

> ask

> > me what you can give me?"

> > D: "If you would take, then ask me. There is nothing I would not

> give

> > you."

> > Bh: "All right. Now I am asking. Give me. What will you give me?"

> > D: "Take anything, all is yours."

> > Bh: "Then give me all the good you have done in this world."

> > D: "What good could I have done? I have not a single virtue to my

> > credit"

> > Bh: "You have promised to give. Now give. Don't talk of your

> credit.

> > Just give away all the good you have done in your past."

> > D: "Yes, I shall give. But how does one give? Tell me how the

> giving

> > is done and I shall give."

> > Bh: "Say like this: 'All the good I have done in the past I am

> giving

> > away entirely to my guru. Henceforth I have no merit from it nor

> have

> > I any concern with it.' Say it with your whole heart."

> > D: "All right, Swami, I am giving away to you all the good I have

> > done so far, if I have done any, and all its good effects. I am

> > giving it to you gladly, for you are my master and you are asking

> me

> > to give it all away to you."

> > Bh: "But this is not enough," said Bhagavan sternly.

> > D: "I gave you all I have and all you asked me to give. I have

> > nothing more to give."

> > Bh: "No, you have. Give me all your sins."

> > D: The man looked wildly at Bhagavan, terror stricken. "You do

not

> > know, Swami, what you are asking for. If you knew, you would not

> ask

> > me. If you take over my sins, your body will rot and burn. You do

> not

> > know me, you do not know my sins. Please do not ask me for my

> sins."

> > And he wept bitterly.

> > Bh: "I shall look after myself, don't you worry about me," said

> > Bhagavan. "All I want from you is your sins."

> >

> > For a long time the bargain would not go through. The man refused

> to

> > part with his sins. But Bhagavan was adamant.

> >

> > Bh: "Either give me your sins along with your merits, or keep

both

> > and don't think of me as your master."

> >

> > In the end the visitor's scruples broke down and he

> > declared: "Whatever sins I have done, they are no longer mine.

All

> of

> > them and their results, too, belong to Ramana."

> >

> > Bhagavan seemed to be satisfied. "From now on there is no good

nor

> > bad in you. You are just pure. Go and do nothing, neither good

nor

> > bad. Remain yourself, remain what you are."

> >

> > A great peace fell over the man and over us all. No one knows

what

> > happened to the fortunate visitor; he was never seen in the

Ashram

> > again. He might have been in no further need of coming.

> >

> > Hari Aum !!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

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The story is written by Krishna Bhikshu, the Telugu biographer of Sri

Ramana, found also in Ramana Smrti Souvenir, 1st ed. 1980, which is a

collection of articles from different writers about Sri Ramana.

 

 

RamanaMaharshi, "Alton Slater" <leenalton@h...> wrote:

> Dear Vikram:

> I thought is was great too. I sometimes worry about my sins also.

> Viorica said that it came from

> The Maharshi Newsletter Jul/Aug 1998 : That is all I know about it.

> Maybe some knowledgeable members can give the original source if

> there is one.

>

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Dear Gabriele,

 

Thanks for the info.

 

-Vikram.

***********************************

 

RamanaMaharshi, "gabriele_ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote:

> The story is written by Krishna Bhikshu, the Telugu biographer of

Sri

> Ramana, found also in Ramana Smrti Souvenir, 1st ed. 1980, which is

a

> collection of articles from different writers about Sri Ramana.

>

>

> RamanaMaharshi, "Alton Slater" <leenalton@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Vikram:

> > I thought is was great too. I sometimes worry about my sins

also.

> > Viorica said that it came from

> > The Maharshi Newsletter Jul/Aug 1998 : That is all I know about

it.

> > Maybe some knowledgeable members can give the original source if

> > there is one.

> >

> of this message have been removed]

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