Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 Yes, thank you for that laundry list. But I have studied all the gurus and masters and basically surrender, complete and total is an illusion ultimately. Because in the Atma, or Self, or Brahma there is no separation, no separate self or thing to surrender. It is only for the phenomenal world. It is I who have been saying that they are all the same all along and do overlap, so thanks for adding your voice to it. I was beginning to think I was crazy. Heloise ***************** -- In RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: > Dear Heloise , it may help to understand that Ramana told a visitor who found surrender > difficult that 'total surrender was impossible at the beginning , but partial surrender was > possible for all and that would eventually lead to total surrender '.He also said that all the > Yogas overlap , Bhakti , Karma and Jnana .Raja Yoga is indirectly referred to in his Essay on Delf > Enquiry when he considered Raja Yoga techniques such as Breath Control , Withdrawal of the > Senses etc, as good aids to Self Enquiry , his principle teaching .Alan > > PS> My own oppinion is that Diving Into the Heart is best approached through Raja Yoga , but not > every one finds it easy . He also said Hatha Yoga was an aid as was Celibacy {but not essential }. > Vegeterianism was also a great aid {with milk products} and abstinence from alcohol and tobacco . . > > > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page > from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts > http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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