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Because you have become monks, followers of Buddha's Law and disciples of a

famous Superior, you think you are different from laymen, whom you look at

with condescension. Baldheads, you are as ignorant of the primordial spirit

as the grass in the field.

 

* * *

 

Baldheads, you surrender entirely to the will and whims of someone else whom

you have shoved above your heads to the point where you leave every thing to

him; you think that you have the right attitude and that in this way you are

carefree and desireless. In reality you only behave like very young monkeys

who do not leave their mother for a single moment but feverishly cling to

her because they are so afraid. As time passes by, you become like those

parched trees that all look alike in winter: when their time comes, they do

not grow any more leaves nor yield any more fruit. How can you hope to see

the primordial spirit with such a passive attitude?

 

Baldheads, you are already dead

 

* * *

 

 

The primordial spirit illuminates everyone. Some see it; others do not know

it. That is the only difference between them. As for you Baldheads, you are

like a drunkard who, on the outside of fence, frantically holds on to the

bamboos, screaming that he has been locked in, that he is innocent and

implores to be released.

 

Baldheads nobody imprisons you but you yourselves. How disastrous for you!

 

( To be continued )

 

Jai Sri Ramana

Ramana Sarma

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This old Tcheng gives a very good prick! Excellent!

 

In HIM

Gabriele

 

RamanaMaharshi, venkata ramana sarma podury

<rpodury@g...> wrote:

> Because you have become monks, followers of Buddha's Law and

disciples of a

> famous Superior, you think you are different from laymen, whom you

look at

> with condescension. Baldheads, you are as ignorant of the

primordial spirit

> as the grass in the field.

>

> * * *

>

> Baldheads, you surrender entirely to the will and whims of someone

else whom

> you have shoved above your heads to the point where you leave every

thing to

> him; you think that you have the right attitude and that in this

way you are

> carefree and desireless. In reality you only behave like very young

monkeys

> who do not leave their mother for a single moment but feverishly

cling to

> her because they are so afraid. As time passes by, you become like

those

> parched trees that all look alike in winter: when their time comes,

they do

> not grow any more leaves nor yield any more fruit. How can you hope

to see

> the primordial spirit with such a passive attitude?

>

> Baldheads, you are already dead

>

> * * *

>

>

> The primordial spirit illuminates everyone. Some see it; others do

not know

> it. That is the only difference between them. As for you Baldheads,

you are

> like a drunkard who, on the outside of fence, frantically holds on

to the

> bamboos, screaming that he has been locked in, that he is innocent

and

> implores to be released.

>

> Baldheads nobody imprisons you but you yourselves. How disastrous

for you!

>

> ( To be

continued )

>

> Jai Sri Ramana

> Ramana Sarma

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Amusing as these cha'n texts are we must remember they were written for monks

who had taken an

overdose of efforting and needed the Master's antidote .The Monks had a great

foundation of

spiritual practice .Ramana's way is for the householder not the monk .For the

contemporary

Vedantic monastic way would be with Ramakrishna or Sivananda etc .Ramana's way

of Self Enquiry ,

Diving Into the Heart and Self surrender plus an understanding of Advaita

Philosophy make these

texts interesting curiosities as guidance for those on the Buddhist Monastic

Path .There is a

danger that they lead to a spiritual apathy{like the pop teachers of neo-

Advaita who tell people

there is nothing to do or can do , and just make their admirers feel at ease

with themselves }

unless seen as written for Monks who had already done many years of meditation

and were struck by

a staff if attention wavered . Alan

c

<tt>

Because you have become monks, followers of Buddha's Law and disciples of a<BR>

famous Superior, you think you are different from laymen, whom you look at<BR>

with condescension. Baldheads, you are as ignorant of the primordial spirit<BR>

as the grass in the field.<BR>

<BR>

           

     

      * * *<BR>

<BR>

Baldheads, you surrender entirely to the will and whims of someone else whom<BR>

you have shoved above your heads to the point where you leave every thing to<BR>

him; you think that you have the right attitude and that in this way you are<BR>

carefree and desireless. In reality you only behave like very young monkeys<BR>

who do not leave their mother for a single moment but feverishly cling to<BR>

her because they are so afraid. As time passes by, you become like those<BR>

parched trees that all look alike in winter: when their time comes, they do<BR>

not grow any more leaves nor yield any more fruit. How can you hope to see<BR>

the primordial spirit with such a passive attitude?<BR>

<BR>

Baldheads, you are already dead<BR>

<BR>

           

     

      * * * <BR>

           

     

      <BR>

<BR>

The primordial spirit illuminates everyone. Some see it; others do not know<BR>

it. That is the only difference between them. As for you Baldheads, you are<BR>

like a drunkard who, on the outside of fence, frantically holds on to the<BR>

bamboos, screaming that he has been locked in, that he is innocent and<BR>

implores to be released.<BR>

<BR>

Baldheads nobody imprisons you but you yourselves. How disastrous for you!<BR>

           

     

            <BR>

           

     

           

     

      ( To be continued )<BR>

<BR>

Jai Sri Ramana <BR>

Ramana Sarma<BR>

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Dear Alan,

thank you for pointing out the context of these texts.

They have the effect to demage the ego of the monks/meditators who

think about themselves being on a certain "level" because of many

years practice and having reached something etc.

The point of them is to demage the ego - not to encourage practice.

If seen like this they can give a good hint for the spiritual

practicer who thinks he is a good and advanced spiritual practicer -

LOL.

 

Ramana was much more gentle with giving such hints as this old

Tcheng, but they are also given by him.

 

In Sri Ramana

Gabriele

 

RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:

> Amusing as these cha'n texts are we must remember they were written

for monks who had taken an

> overdose of efforting and needed the Master's antidote .The Monks

had a great foundation of

> spiritual practice .Ramana's way is for the householder not the

monk .For the contemporary

> Vedantic monastic way would be with Ramakrishna or Sivananda

etc .Ramana's way of Self Enquiry ,

> Diving Into the Heart and Self surrender plus an understanding of

Advaita Philosophy make these

> texts interesting curiosities as guidance for those on the Buddhist

Monastic Path .There is a

> danger that they lead to a spiritual apathy{like the pop teachers

of neo- Advaita who tell people

> there is nothing to do or can do , and just make their admirers

feel at ease with themselves }

> unless seen as written for Monks who had already done many years of

meditation and were struck by

> a staff if attention wavered . Alan

> c

> <tt>

> Because you have become monks, followers of Buddha's Law and

disciples of a<BR>

> famous Superior, you think you are different from laymen, whom you

look at<BR>

> with condescension. Baldheads, you are as ignorant of the

primordial spirit<BR>

> as the grass in the field.<BR>

> <BR>

>            

     

>       * * *<BR>

> <BR>

> Baldheads, you surrender entirely to the will and whims of someone

else whom<BR>

> you have shoved above your heads to the point where you leave every

thing to<BR>

> him; you think that you have the right attitude and that in this

way you are<BR>

> carefree and desireless. In reality you only behave like very young

monkeys<BR>

> who do not leave their mother for a single moment but feverishly

cling to<BR>

> her because they are so afraid. As time passes by, you become like

those<BR>

> parched trees that all look alike in winter: when their time comes,

they do<BR>

> not grow any more leaves nor yield any more fruit. How can you hope

to see<BR>

> the primordial spirit with such a passive attitude?<BR>

> <BR>

> Baldheads, you are already dead<BR>

> <BR>

>            

     

>       * * * <BR>

>            

     

>       <BR>

> <BR>

> The primordial spirit illuminates everyone. Some see it; others do

not know<BR>

> it. That is the only difference between them. As for you Baldheads,

you are<BR>

> like a drunkard who, on the outside of fence, frantically holds on

to the<BR>

> bamboos, screaming that he has been locked in, that he is innocent

and<BR>

> implores to be released.<BR>

> <BR>

> Baldheads nobody imprisons you but you yourselves. How disastrous

for you!<BR>

>            

     

>             <BR>

>            

     

>            

     

>       ( To be continued )<BR>

> <BR>

> Jai Sri Ramana <BR>

> Ramana Sarma<BR>

> </tt>

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Dear Gabriele , I quite agree , All love , In Him , Alan

 

 

<tt>

Dear Alan,<BR>

thank you for pointing out the context of these texts. <BR>

They have the effect to demage the ego of the monks/meditators who <BR>

think about themselves being on a certain "level" because of many <BR>

years practice and having reached something etc. <BR>

The point of them is to demage the ego - not to encourage practice. <BR>

If seen like this they can give a good hint for the spiritual <BR>

practicer who thinks he is a good and advanced spiritual practicer - <BR>

LOL. <BR>

<BR>

Ramana was much more gentle with giving such hints as this old <BR>

Tcheng, but they are also given by him. <BR>

<BR>

In Sri Ramana<BR>

Gabriele<BR>

<BR>

RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:<BR>

> Amusing as these cha'n texts are we must remember they were written <BR>

for monks who had taken an<BR>

> overdose of efforting and needed the Master's antidote .The Monks <BR>

had a great foundation of<BR>

> spiritual practice .Ramana's way is for the householder not the <BR>

monk .For the contemporary<BR>

> Vedantic monastic way would be with Ramakrishna or Sivananda <BR>

etc .Ramana's way of Self Enquiry ,<BR>

> Diving Into the Heart and Self surrender plus an understanding of <BR>

Advaita Philosophy make these<BR>

> texts interesting curiosities as guidance for those on the Buddhist <BR>

Monastic Path .There is a<BR>

> danger that they lead to a spiritual apathy{like the pop teachers <BR>

of neo- Advaita who tell people<BR>

> there is nothing to do or can do , and just make their admirers <BR>

feel at ease with themselves }<BR>

> unless seen as written for Monks who had already done many years of <BR>

meditation and were struck by<BR>

> a staff if attention wavered . Alan <BR>

> c<BR>

> <tt><BR>

> Because you have become monks, followers of Buddha's Law and <BR>

disciples of a<BR><BR>

> famous Superior, you think you are different from laymen, whom you <BR>

look at<BR><BR>

> with condescension. Baldheads, you are as ignorant of the <BR>

primordial spirit<BR><BR>

> as the grass in the field.<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * * *<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Baldheads, you surrender entirely to the will and whims of someone <BR>

else whom<BR><BR>

> you have shoved above your heads to the point where you leave every <BR>

thing to<BR><BR>

> him; you think that you have the right attitude and that in this <BR>

way you are<BR><BR>

> carefree and desireless. In reality you only behave like very young <BR>

monkeys<BR><BR>

> who do not leave their mother for a single moment but feverishly <BR>

cling to<BR><BR>

> her because they are so afraid. As time passes by, you become like <BR>

those<BR><BR>

> parched trees that all look alike in winter: when their time comes, <BR>

they do<BR><BR>

> not grow any more leaves nor yield any more fruit. How can you hope <BR>

to see<BR><BR>

> the primordial spirit with such a passive attitude?<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Baldheads, you are already dead<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * * * <BR><BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

>  The primordial spirit illuminates everyone. Some see it; others do

<BR>

not know<BR><BR>

> it. That is the only difference between them. As for you Baldheads, <BR>

you are<BR><BR>

> like a drunkard who, on the outside of fence, frantically holds on <BR>

to the<BR><BR>

> bamboos, screaming that he has been locked in, that he is innocent <BR>

and<BR><BR>

> implores to be released.<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Baldheads nobody imprisons you but you yourselves. How disastrous <BR>

for you!<BR><BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>

> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ( To be continued

)<BR><BR>

> <BR><BR>

> Jai Sri Ramana <BR><BR>

> Ramana Sarma<BR><BR>

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