Ramesh on Death

[Guest guest]

Jan Sultan recently posted the following quotation (and more) to the

DirectApproach list about Ramesh's thoughts on death:

 

"When you are dead, you will be back in the primordial state of rest which

existed before you were born, that stillness before all experience. It is

only the false sense of a limited, separate "me" that deprives life of its

meaning and gives death an ominous significance which it really does not

have.

 

"The ego naturally fears the inevitability of death because it means its own

destruction. Yet deep down, man always knows with intuitive conviction

that he is really immortal, and it is for this reason that he is always

seeking, consciously or unconsciously, his true nature."

 

There is still a fascinating discussion going on there about subtle bodies

surviving physical death and the like - but I agree with Alan that I

expected the discussions on this list to revolve around Ramana and his

teaching. (I also find it difficult to believe that Ramesh said we should

devote our energies to getting rich - is there a reference for this?)

 

Dennis

[Guest guest]

There is still a fascinating discussion going on there about subtle bodies

surviving physical death and the like - but I agree with Alan that I

expected the discussions on this list to revolve around Ramana and his

teaching. (I also find it difficult to believe that Ramesh said we should

devote our energies to getting rich - is there a reference for this?)

 

Dennis

 

 

Hi Dennis,

 

It's not exactly like he said we "should" set that up as a goal, besides which

all is determined already and we have no choice according to him. The

apocryphal

comment goes like this...

WAYNE: Not really! My teacher, Ramesh Balsekar, used to say that if you are

given the choice

 

between having a million dollars and enlightenment take the million bucks

because at least there's

 

someone there to enjoy it! [Laughter] In enlightenment there is not a "one" to

enjoy enlightenment.

 

http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:KUFyJU1nIwoC:www.theawakeningwest.com/wayne\

..html+Ramesh+Balsekar+%2B+million+dollars&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

 

I've heard this before...this was the only source I could come up with

quickly.

 

Gloria

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

As for this one, what is more important than one's own Self-

realization? No amount of discussion about subtle bodies and whether

Ramesh taught one thing or another will bring this about.

 

What is best about this group is its support for the Realization of

all. And the focus on the pure and wonderful teaching of nonduality

and inquiry provided by Bagavan Ramana Maharshi.

 

We are Not two,

Richard

 

RamanaMaharshi, "Gloria Lee" <glee@c...> wrote:

>

>

>

> There is still a fascinating discussion going on there about

subtle bodies

> surviving physical death and the like - but I agree with Alan

that I

> expected the discussions on this list to revolve around Ramana

and his

> teaching. (I also find it difficult to believe that Ramesh said

we should

> devote our energies to getting rich - is there a reference for

this?)

>

> Dennis

>

>

> Hi Dennis,

>

> It's not exactly like he said we "should" set that up as a goal,

besides which

> all is determined already and we have no choice according to him.

The apocryphal

> comment goes like this...

> WAYNE: Not really! My teacher, Ramesh Balsekar, used to say that

if you are given the choice

>

> between having a million dollars and enlightenment take the

million bucks because at least there's

>

> someone there to enjoy it! [Laughter] In enlightenment there is

not a "one" to enjoy enlightenment.

>

> http://216.239.33.100/search?

q=cache:KUFyJU1nIwoC:www.theawakeningwest.com/wayne.html+Ramesh+Balsek

ar+%2B+million+dollars&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

>

> I've heard this before...this was the only source I could come up

with quickly.

>

> Gloria

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Richard,

I only can agree.

And as the truth is inside us as our very nature - so we have to find

it here.

Of course sometimes it is very interesting to compare what different

teachers say and discuss - but rarely this supports sadhana at the

end. Here we have to stick to practice. Out of deepening practice

comes a clear understanding then.

 

In Sri Ramana

Gabriele

 

RamanaMaharshi, "Richard Clarke" <r_clarke@i...> wrote:

> As for this one, what is more important than one's own Self-

> realization? No amount of discussion about subtle bodies and

whether

> Ramesh taught one thing or another will bring this about.

>

> What is best about this group is its support for the Realization of

> all. And the focus on the pure and wonderful teaching of nonduality

> and inquiry provided by Bagavan Ramana Maharshi.

>

> We are Not two,

> Richard

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Gabriele ' I totally agree .Regards Alan

 

 

 

--- gabriele_ebert <g.ebert wrote:

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Dear Richard, <BR>

I only can agree. <BR>

And as the truth is inside us as our very nature - so we have to find <BR>

it here.<BR>

Of course sometimes it is very interesting to compare what different <BR>

teachers say and discuss - but rarely this supports sadhana at the <BR>

end. Here we have to stick to practice. Out of deepening practice <BR>

comes a clear understanding then. <BR>

<BR>

In Sri Ramana<BR>

Gabriele<BR>

<BR>

RamanaMaharshi, "Richard Clarke" <r_clarke@i...>

wrote:<BR>

> As for this one, what is more important than one's own Self-<BR>

> realization? No amount of discussion about subtle bodies and <BR>

whether <BR>

> Ramesh taught one thing or another will bring this about. <BR>

> <BR>

> What is best about this group is its support for the Realization of <BR>

> all. And the focus on the pure and wonderful teaching of nonduality <BR>

> and inquiry provided by Bagavan Ramana Maharshi.<BR>

> <BR>

> We are Not two,<BR>

> Richard<BR>

> <BR>

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