Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 A couple of weeks ago, somebody remarked here that Bhagavan would never have banned anybody from his ashram. I tried to find the following quotation at the time, but it didn't turn up till today. ................ A man of about 30, of good appearance, came to the hall with a few companions. The man abruptly began: "To say 'I-I' cannot help anyone to reach the goal. How can 'I' be pointed out?" M.: It must be found within. It is not an object so that it may be shown by one to another. D.: When the instruction to find the 'I' is given, the instruction must be made complete by showing what it is. M.: The instruction here amounts to direction only. It depends on the seeker to use the direction. D.: The seeker is ignorant and seeks instruction. M.: He is therefore guided to find the Truth. D.: But it is not enough. The 'I' must be pointed out specifically. The man assumed an aggressive attitude and did not listen. Sri Bhagavan tried to explain, but he would not allow Sri Bhagavan to do so. Finally Sri Bhagavan said: This is not the attitude of the seeker. When someone teaches humility to the seeker, he will reach the way and not till then. The chanting of the Vedas began. The conversation was casually referred to by a devotee present. Sri Bhagavan again said: The seeker must listen and try to understand. If on the other hand he wants to prove me, let him do so by all means. I do not argue. The man began again: "My attitude was not properly understood. I want to know the 'I'. It must be pointed out to me." But he displayed considerable malice. The others did not like it and so tried to bring him round. He became worse. Sri Bhagavan finally said: "Go back the way you came. Do it externally or internally, as it suits you." The man grew excited and others also were equally excited. He was finally led out of the hall and sent away. -- From Talks With Sri Ramana Maharshi, article 645. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Dear Rob: This was me in a previous life, but I did get Sri Ramana's grace and here I am as a devoted seeker. So dont let appearances fool you. Love, Alton RamanaMaharshi, "Rob Sacks" <editor@r...> wrote: > A couple of weeks ago, somebody remarked here > that Bhagavan would never have banned anybody > from his ashram. I tried to find the following > quotation at the time, but it didn't turn up till today. > ............... > > A man of about 30, of good appearance, came > to the hall with a few companions. The man abruptly > began: "To say 'I-I' cannot help anyone to reach the > goal. How can 'I' be pointed out?" > > M.: It must be found within. It is not an object so > that it may be shown by one to another. > > D.: When the instruction to find the 'I' is given, the > instruction must be made complete by showing > what it is. > > M.: The instruction here amounts to direction only. > It depends on the seeker to use the direction. > > D.: The seeker is ignorant and seeks instruction. > > M.: He is therefore guided to find the Truth. > > D.: But it is not enough. The 'I' must be pointed > out specifically. > > The man assumed an aggressive attitude and did > not listen. Sri Bhagavan tried to explain, but he > would not allow Sri Bhagavan to do so. Finally Sri > Bhagavan said: > > This is not the attitude of the seeker. When someone > teaches humility to the seeker, he will reach the way > and not till then. > > The chanting of the Vedas began. > > The conversation was casually referred to by a > devotee present. > > Sri Bhagavan again said: The seeker must listen and > try to understand. If on the other hand he wants to prove > me, let him do so by all means. I do not argue. > > The man began again: > > "My attitude was not properly understood. I want to > know the 'I'. It must be pointed out to me." > > But he displayed considerable malice. The others > did not like it and so tried to bring him round. He > became worse. Sri Bhagavan finally said: "Go back > the way you came. Do it externally or internally, as it > suits you." > > The man grew excited and others also were equally > excited. He was finally led out of the hall and sent > away. > -- From Talks With Sri Ramana Maharshi, > article 645. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 Dear Alton, > This was me in a previous life, but I did get > Sri Ramana's grace and here I am as a devoted > seeker. So dont let appearances fool you. Haha you were a trouble maker in two lives in a row! Appearances? Haha, they always fool me. My friend Alton, man of numerous names, in rainbow ink writes down the gist and core of what the sages taught, essenced to a rhyming size and shape that even this dull boy can grasp; and asks the questions others fear to raise lest ignorance be shown, not merely asks but shouts in headline type. And don't forget, he pushes buttons too. Who knew a heart so big would wrap itself in clothes like these? Aloha buddy! I bet the weather is a lot better where you are than here! - <leenalton <RamanaMaharshi> Sunday, December 08, 2002 5:10 PM [RamanaMaharshi] Re: Escort the gentleman out > > Dear Rob: > This was me in a previous life, but I did get Sri Ramana's grace and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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