Guest guest Posted December 8, 2002 Report Share Posted December 8, 2002 om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya In Conscious Immortality, the following conversation with Sri Bhagavan is recorded: Q. You say that 'association with the Wise and service of them is required of the disciple.' A. Yes, the first really means association with the unmanifest Sat, or Absolute Existence; but as very few can do that, they have to take the second best which is association with the manifest Sat, i.e. the Guru. Association with the Sages should be made because the thoughts are so persistent. The Sage has already overcome the mind and remains in peace. His proximity helps to bring about such condition in others. Otherwise there is no meaning in seeking his company. The Guru provides the needed strength unseen by others. Service is primarily to abide in the Self but it also includes to make the Guru's body comfortable, and to look after his place of abode. Also contact with the Guru is necessary, but this means spiritual contact. If the disciple finds the Guru internally, then it does not matter where he goes. Staying here or elsewhere must be understood to be the same and to have the same effect. ....Guru is the Self after all, but manifests as the external Guru at a lower stage of the mind's development. A spiritually minded man takes God for his Guru believing that God is everywhere. Later God brings in contact with a personal Guru whose grace enables him to feel that his Self is the Reality and the Guru. (Sri Ramanasramam; 1984) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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