Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Some thoughts on Upadesa Saram, V.1 ************************************************ We are not free to decide to act or not to act, nor are the following results in our hands. Neither actions nor their fruits are ours. Whatever happens is according to the Will of the Lord. In Sri Ramana Gabriele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Dear Sri Gabriele, I recall that there was a reference to Sri Sadhu Om's translation of the tamil upadesa undiyar. But I did not get to see it in the posts. I would rather prefer to read his translation than Suri's attempt at a mere literal translation. om gurave namah suri Gabriele Ebert <g.ebert (AT) gmx (DOT) de> wrote: Some thoughts on Upadesa Saram, V.1 ************************************************ We are not free to decide to act or not to act, nor are the following results in our hands. Neither actions nor their fruits are ours. Whatever happens is according to the Will of the Lord. In Sri Ramana Gabriele Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Dear Sri Suri, "Suri's attempt" is also very beautiful. May I re-post it here together with the others? Yours in Sri Ramana Gabriele Here is the one by Sri Sadhu Om (from message 2421 posted by Sri Achala), I had forgotten to include yesterday but instead only posted the prefatory verse. 1. Those who were performing austerities (tapas)in the Daruka Forest, were heading for their ruin by (following the path of) purva-karma.(Tiruvundiyar 1.70) ************ - surya narayan RamanaMaharshi Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:45 PM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] some thoughts on Upadesa Saram, 1 om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya Dear Sri Gabriele, I recall that there was a reference to Sri Sadhu Om's translation of the tamil upadesa undiyar. But I did not get to see it in the posts. I would rather prefer to read his translation than Suri's attempt at a mere literal translation. om gurave namah suri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 PS: Oh sorry, this seems to be something else: the Introductory Verses by Sri Muruganar and not the text. Must search anew. RamanaMaharshi, "Gabriele Ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > Dear Sri Suri, > > "Suri's attempt" is also very beautiful. May I re-post it here together with the others? > > Yours in Sri Ramana > Gabriele > > Here is the one by Sri Sadhu Om (from message 2421 posted by Sri Achala), I had forgotten to include yesterday but instead only > posted the prefatory verse. > > 1. Those who were performing austerities (tapas) > in the Daruka Forest, were heading for their > ruin by (following the path of) purva-karma. > (Tiruvundiyar 1.70) > > ************ > > > - > surya narayan > RamanaMaharshi > Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:45 PM > Re: [RamanaMaharshi] some thoughts on Upadesa Saram, 1 > > > om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya > > Dear Sri Gabriele, > > I recall that there was a reference to Sri Sadhu Om's translation of the tamil upadesa undiyar. But I did not get to see it in the posts. I would rather prefer to read his translation than Suri's attempt at a mere literal translation. > > om gurave namah > > suri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 There is no escape from karmas nor from their fruits. The only free will we can exercise is to renounce the sense of doership of an action and to accept the outcome thereof, may it be good or bad. Not lamenting nor rejoicing, only acceptance without any further pondering. In Arunachalananda Christina Some thoughts on Upadesa Saram, V.1 ************************************************ We are not free to decide to act or not to act, nor are the following results in our hands. Neither actions nor their fruits are ours. Whatever happens is according to the Will of the Lord. In Sri Ramana Gabriele Sponsor <http://rd./M=246920.2960106.4328965.2848452/D=egroupweb/S=1705077076:HM/A=1481659/R=0/*http://www.gotomypc.com/u/tr/yh/cpm/grp/300_yh1/g22lp?Target=mm/g22lp.tmpl> Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi- List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/RamanaMaharshi Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Arunachalaramanaya Here is the translation by Sri Sadhu Om: 1. Karma giveing fruit is by the ordainment of God(the Karta or Ordainer). Can karma be God, since karma is insentient(jada)? --- gabriele_ebert <g.ebert wrote: > PS: Oh sorry, this seems to be something else: the > Introductory > Verses by Sri Muruganar and not the text. Must > search anew. > > RamanaMaharshi, "Gabriele > Ebert" > <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > > Dear Sri Suri, > > > > "Suri's attempt" is also very beautiful. May I > re-post it here > together with the others? > > > > Yours in Sri Ramana > > Gabriele > > > > Here is the one by Sri Sadhu Om (from message 2421 > posted by Sri > Achala), I had forgotten to include yesterday but > instead only > > posted the prefatory verse. > > > > 1. Those who were performing austerities (tapas) > > in the Daruka Forest, were heading for their > > ruin by (following the path of) purva-karma. > > (Tiruvundiyar 1.70) > > > > ************ > > > > > > - > > surya narayan > > RamanaMaharshi > > Saturday, March 08, 2003 6:45 PM > > Re: [RamanaMaharshi] some thoughts on > Upadesa Saram, 1 > > > > > > om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya > > > > Dear Sri Gabriele, > > > > I recall that there was a reference to Sri Sadhu > Om's translation > of the tamil upadesa undiyar. But I did not get to > see it in the > posts. I would rather prefer to read his translation > than Suri's > attempt at a mere literal translation. > > > > om gurave namah > > > > suri > > Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 WHAT IS THE MEANING OF AUM?For those who are not familiar with the meaning of the sacred Aum, we include here some excerpts from our web site. A.) Aum: Often spelled Om. The mystic syllable of Hinduism, placed at the beginning of most sacred writings. As a mantra, it is pronounced aw (as in law), oo (as in zoo), mm. Aum represents the Divine, and is associated with Lord Ganesha, for its initial sound "aa," vibrates within the muladhara, the chakra at the base of the spine upon which this God sits. The second sound of this mantra, "oo," vibrates within the throat and chest chakras, the realm of Lord Murugan, or Kumara, known by the Hawaiian people as the God Ku. The third sound, "mm," vibrates within the cranial chakras, ajna and sahasrara, where the Supreme God reigns. The dot above, called anusvara, represents the Soundless Sound, Paranada. Aum is explained in the Upanishads as standing for the whole world and its parts, including past, present and future. It is from this primal vibration that all manifestation issues forth. Aum is the primary, or mula mantra, and often precedes other mantras. It may be safely used for chanting and japa by anyone of any religion. Its three letters represent the three worlds and the powers of creation, preservation and destruction. In common usage in several Indian languages, aum means "yes, verily" or "hail." B.) Literally, Pranava in Sanskrit means "humming." The mantram Aum denotes God as the Primal Sound. This sound can be heard as the sound of one's own nerve system, and meditators and mystics hear it daily, like the sound made by an electrical transformer or a swarm of bees, or a thousand vinas playing in the distance. It is a strong, inner experience, one that yogis hold with great reverence. The meditator is taught to inwardly transform this sound into the inner light which lights up ones' thoughts, and to bask in this blissful consciousness of light. Pranava is also known as the sound of the nadanadi sakti. Hearing it one draws near to God Consciousness. When we are living in the lower chakras, or when the world too strongly dominates our mind, this sound may, for a time, not be heard. But it returns as awareness withdraws, as the mind becomes perfectly quiescent, silent, still. Listen for this sound in your quietest moments and you will learn to recognize it as a daily encounter with the Divine that lives within all men, within all creatures, within all existence.C.) Poems from Yogaswami on AumThe whole world has evolved from Om;The whole word is sustained by Om;The whole world will merge into Om-In Om resides my strength-Sivayave.OM TAT SAT OMRise ere the sun each morning and wash feet, face and hands. Weaving fresh blossoms into garlands, give worship unto God. If we curb the mind from following the senses andvenerate the Lord's celestial feet, Attachment: [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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