Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 A friend and I were comparing notes today about sadhana, about how boring it is to be quiet. He wrote to me: > Yes it is very boring. I noticed that in 1975 when I was on > the second half of a 6 month meditation course. My mind > would stop producing thoughts, breath would be so slow I > couldn't detect it, awareness was spread out and I could stay > there for a long time, But it was so boring, I would eventually > get up so I could have a pastry. If you tell the experience to > someone, it sounds cosmic, but it's just very boring. This is my experience too -- boring, boring, boring. "Quiet" means the entertainment stops. I can't remember seeing this feeling of boredom mentioned anywhere in the literature about Ramana Maharshi. Maybe I just didn't notice because I wasn't interested. Can anybody tell me a reference where Bhagavan or his devotees discuss this? Thanks a lot. om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Rob , I haven't read any comment by Ramana about this , but the Advaitic reacher [Parsons of the Open Secret}for what it is worth often says in his Satsangs that this feeling of boredom is close to an awakening .I think the feeling of boredom , from my own experience , is a major vasana of the monkey mind -which always seeks something interesting out there .The fact that it is coming out is good-into the light of awareness -without trying to escape from it immediately.My remedy is to read something allied to this teaching about God {to ward off other thoughts ,thought of God is one pointed and leads to devotion , Ramana says].Puranas , and stories of this type can be interesting and helpful in fostering devotion ,or bhajans.Otherwise mantra japa or watching the breathing may be good .Of course there is always diving into the Heart with the question 'who is feeling bored ?'. I hope this isn't boring sermonizing but it is how I see it .All love , in His Grace , Alan Talk: 459...HappinessA friend and I were comparing notes today about sadhana, > about how boring it is to be quiet. He wrote to me: > > > Yes it is very boring. I noticed that in 1975 when I was on > > the second half of a 6 month meditation course. My mind > > would stop producing thoughts, breath would be so slow I > > couldn't detect it, awareness was spread out and I could stay > > there for a long time, But it was so boring, I would eventually > > get up so I could have a pastry. If you tell the experience to > > someone, it sounds cosmic, but it's just very boring. > > This is my experience too -- boring, boring, boring. "Quiet" > means the entertainment stops. > > I can't remember seeing this feeling of boredom mentioned > anywhere in the literature about Ramana Maharshi. Maybe > I just didn't notice because I wasn't interested. > > Can anybody tell me a reference where Bhagavan or his > devotees discuss this? > > Thanks a lot. > > om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Rob: You wrote: --- Rob Sacks <editor wrote: > Talk: 459...HappinessA friend and I were comparing > notes today about sadhana, > about how boring it is to be quiet. He wrote to me: > > This is my experience too -- boring, boring, boring. > "Quiet" > means the entertainment stops. > > You also asked about any Ramana literature in which the topic of boredom is discussed. I don't have any quotes from the Ramana literature; but from my own experience I have found that the "boredom" period is a phase that a person may have to go through. I experienced a deep and profound boredom that lasted for few years. I was so very bored. I actually felt quite depressed; but that period finally passed and gave way to an immeasurable peace. In deep sleep there isn't any mental activity and there isn't any boredom either. This is because the ego is temporarily suspended. The ego really doesn't know how to deal with quiet and peace. But as the ego thins, this perspective changes. yours in bhagavan michael Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya Dear Rob, Boredom? Boredom is mindstuff! The one who is bored is the very problem. Without him how could there possibly be boredom? This is the human condition. Comparisons between this and that, between activity and boredom. There is absolutely no boredom in awareness. You decide that there must be something more interesting to do and declare yourself bored. This is not awareness. This is mindstuff. Simple pandering to the monkey-mind (as Alan has noted in his response). If one attends to Self Enquiry throughout daily life, rather than just at times of seated meditation, this is very easily overcome, without loss of 'entertainment'. Self Enquiry is vibrant, never boring. It efficiently eliminates the one who is bored! Ever Yours in Sri Bhagavan, Miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 RamanaDear Sri Miles, "You decide that there must be something more interesting to do and declare yourself bored. This is not awareness. This is mindstuff. " That saying of yours is really wonderful! Thank you. The following is from the interview of Maalok with David Godman: Maalok: If somebody wants to start practicing the teachings of Ramana Maharshi, where and how should they start? David: This is another classic question: 'What should I do?' However, the question itself is misconceived. It is based on the erroneous assumption that happiness and peace are states that can be experienced by striving, by effort. The busy mind covers up the peace and the silence that is your own natural state, so if you put the mind in gear and use it to pursue some spiritual goal, you are usually taking it away from the peace, not towards it. This is a hard concept for many people to grasp. http://www.davidgodman.org/interviews/al1.shtml Ever yours in Sri Bhagavan, Shengping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Miles, Your letter packed a mighty satsang punch. Pow! Conviction! Quiet without boredom! > . You decide that there must be something > more interesting to do and declare yourself bored. Hmm. Now that you mention it, that's exactly what's happening. In addition to your many talents that we already know about, you seem to be a mind reader. > Self Enquiry is vibrant, never boring. It > efficiently eliminates the one who is bored! I wish I was a mind reader too so I could see how you gave it all up. Where is this coaxing hand filled with green grass I've heard about? > If one attends to Self Enquiry throughout daily life, > rather than just at times of seated meditation, this is very > easily overcome, without loss of 'entertainment'. Yes I do try to do this. Not always with enough attention. A good reminder. Thank you dear Sri Miles. Regards, Rob - "Miles Wright" <ramana.bhakta <RamanaMaharshi> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:54 AM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Quiet is boring? > om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya > > Dear Rob, > > Boredom? > Boredom is mindstuff! The one who is bored is the very problem. Without him > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Michael, It's comforting to hear about your experience. There is depression with this for me too. Thank you. I really don't know how I feel during deep sleep. I love dreaming but that's not deep sleep. Are you aware during deep sleep in a way that's different from most people? Rob - "Michael Bowes" <rmichaelbowes <RamanaMaharshi> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:42 AM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Quiet is boring? > > > You also asked about any Ramana literature in which > the topic of boredom is discussed. I don't have any > quotes from the Ramana literature; but from my own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Alan, > the Advaitic reacher [Tony Parsons of the Open Secret}for > what it is worth often says in his Satsangs that this feeling of > boredom is close to an awakening. That's certainly a cheering thought. On the other hand, my friend says he has felt this way since 1975. > I think the feeling of boredom , from my own experience , is > a major vasana of the monkey mind -which always seeks > something interesting out there . Yes, you're right. It's a mental activity just like the entertaining ones. I'm glad you pointed that out. > Of course there is always diving into the Heart > with the question 'who is feeling bored ?' That's a good idea. It's odd but I don't always think of the obvious things. > I hope this isn't boring sermonizing but it is how I > see it. Not at all. I appreciate it. Rob - "Alan Jacobs" <alanadamsjacobs <RamanaMaharshi> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:08 AM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Quiet is boring? > Dear Rob , I haven't read any comment by Ramana about this , but the Advaitic reacher [Tony > Parsons of the Open Secret}for what it is worth often says in his Satsangs that this feeling of > boredom is close to an awakening .I think the feeling of boredom , from my own experience , is a > major vasana of the monkey mind -which always seeks something interesting out there .The fact > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya Dear Rob, > Where is this coaxing hand filled with green > grass I've heard about? Hmm! That'll be the grass that's always greener on the other side. Ever Yours in Sri Bhagavan, Miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Good grief Miles! If you keep this up I won't be able to do anything! - "Miles Wright" <ramana.bhakta <RamanaMaharshi> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:38 AM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Quiet is boring? > om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya > > Dear Rob, > > > Where is this coaxing hand filled with green > > grass I've heard about? > > Hmm! > That'll be the grass that's always greener on the other side. > > Ever Yours in Sri Bhagavan, > Miles > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Rob, Interesting question. My teacher talks about becoming fascinated with the Self. So far this is more my experience than boredom. As I inquire more, I find that my fascination becomes greater. I strongly suspect that the weekly satsangs and instruction that I receive helps greatly in this. I was earlier married to a woman interested in Scientology. They had what they called a "Tone Scale" which as a linear representation of the different 'moods' that one goes through. At the core of the tone scale was "pain" (emotional pain) going "down" from pain was depression, etc. (this is where the person turns the pain inward). Going "upward" were: anger (where the pain was turned "out", then as one was going "up" above anger came boredom. They called boredom as the first of the "positive' emotional stages. I think this was because to be bored requires energy but one just does not know where to put that energy. Above boredom is "Conservation," taking care of things, cleaning your rooms, etc. Then above this were active 'empowered' states. For a relative standpoint I had found this tone scale useful. Now, after learning about Advaita Vedanta, I would say that all of these 'tones' are just collections of thoughts. So the inquiry becomes, "For whom are these thoughts?" We are not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, "Rob Sacks" <editor@r...> wrote: > Talk: 459...HappinessA friend and I were comparing notes today about sadhana, > about how boring it is to be quiet. He wrote to me: > > > Yes it is very boring. I noticed that in 1975 when I was on > > the second half of a 6 month meditation course. My mind > > would stop producing thoughts, breath would be so slow I > > couldn't detect it, awareness was spread out and I could stay > > there for a long time, But it was so boring, I would eventually > > get up so I could have a pastry. If you tell the experience to > > someone, it sounds cosmic, but it's just very boring. > > This is my experience too -- boring, boring, boring. "Quiet" > means the entertainment stops. > > I can't remember seeing this feeling of boredom mentioned > anywhere in the literature about Ramana Maharshi. Maybe > I just didn't notice because I wasn't interested. > > Can anybody tell me a reference where Bhagavan or his > devotees discuss this? > > Thanks a lot. > > om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Dear Rob: I am not aware of anything at all in deep sleep. michael --- Rob Sacks <editor wrote: > Dear Michael, > > It's comforting to hear about your experience. > There is depression with this for me too. > Thank you. > > I really don't know how I feel during deep sleep. > I love dreaming but that's not deep sleep. > > Are you aware during deep sleep in a way > that's different from most people? > > Rob > > - > "Michael Bowes" <rmichaelbowes > <RamanaMaharshi> > Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:42 AM > Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Quiet is boring? > > > > > You also asked about any Ramana literature in > which > > the topic of boredom is discussed. I don't have > any > > quotes from the Ramana literature; but from my own > > > Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 --- Dear Rob , one thing is for sure - the correspondence you have started certainly isn't boring ..I feel the green grass comes after there is a clearance of vrittis vasanas samskaras etc .This divine detrashing can seem to take time , but we are told that faith and perseverance in atma vichara prevail .I am with you on this one .Regards , in Him , Alan > > > the Advaitic reacher [Tony Parsons of the Open Secret}for > > what it is worth often says in his Satsangs that this feeling of > > boredom is close to an awakening. > > That's certainly a cheering thought. On the other hand, my > friend says he has felt this way since 1975. > > > I think the feeling of boredom , from my own experience , is > > a major vasana of the monkey mind -which always seeks > > something interesting out there . > > Yes, you're right. It's a mental activity just like the entertaining > ones. I'm glad you pointed that out. > > > Of course there is always diving into the Heart > > with the question 'who is feeling bored ?' > > That's a good idea. It's odd but I don't always think of > the obvious things. > > > I hope this isn't boring sermonizing but it is how I > > see it. > > Not at all. I appreciate it. > > Rob > > > > - > "Alan Jacobs" <alanadamsjacobs > <RamanaMaharshi> > Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:08 AM > Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Quiet is boring? > > > > Dear Rob , I haven't read any comment by Ramana about this , but the Advaitic reacher [Tony > > Parsons of the Open Secret}for what it is worth often says in his Satsangs that this feeling > of > > boredom is close to an awakening .I think the feeling of boredom , from my own experience , is > a > > major vasana of the monkey mind -which always seeks something interesting out there .The fact > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi- > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/RamanaMaharshi > > Your use of is subject to > > Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 I was reading osho books , in one of the books he has told about meditation and boredom. I searched a lot yesterday, but I have forgotten in which book he has said about this. I will find out and send that as soon as possible. Mean while www.oshoworld.com has many books.. I have found many answers. He has said boredom is quite natural during sadhana or meditation, but he has said how to transcend it. He has also said all sadgurus like Buddha, Mahaveera and so on have passed through this boredom. Love Vishu Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Rob's original post sure is getting a lot of action on this board. Here is unbound's latest, taken from contemplations. The views here are subject to the laws of inpermanance and might morph just as soon as Mentor Miles with a more powerful mind presents his rebuttal or another take. > Yes it is very boring. I noticed that in 1975 when I was on > the second half of a 6 month meditation course. My mind > would stop producing thoughts, breath would be so slow I > couldn't detect it, awareness was spread out and I could stay > there for a long time, But it was so boring, I would eventually > get up so I could have a pastry. If you tell the experience to > someone, it sounds cosmic, but it's just very boring. Did this meditation course take place in a bakery? If it did I would rather prefer a fish market so if I got bored I could have some filet of soul, (sic). Mostly in the retreats that I had and heard of there was no options to get up and stuff one's mouth until meals were served and everyone took a break. The vasana definition sure did fill in the gaps for me. At last a detailed definition. GODMAN'S WEB SITE Vasanas is a key word in Who am I? It can be defined as, 'the impressions of anything remaining unconsciously in the mind; the present consciousness of past perceptions; knowledge derived from memory; latent tendencies formed by former actions, thoughts and speech.' It is usually rendered in English as 'latent tendencies'. Vishaya vasanas are those latent mental tendencies that impel one to indulge in knowledge or perceptions derived from the five senses. In a broader context it may also include indulging in any mental activity such as daydreaming or fantasizing, where the content of the thoughts is derived from past habits or desires. There is great value in taking a vipasana course so that one can become aware of mental states of clinging and aversion. The aforesaid meditator that noticed boredom surely must not have been aware of his aversion to the mental state of boredom. Here is a link to the abbidhama which is a comprehensive and detailed rendering of mental states. I admit that this is one of the long list of web sites that I plan to read. http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/bps/misc/abhiman.html As I see it, our Attention is being captured by unconscious historical events that have reactivity attached to them. It could be traumas caused by accidents, operations, or any events that restrict awareness of what happens. These are like implants in the psyche that cause us to act like automatons or hypnotized subjects. Events of pleasure can also cause the aforesaid attachments. I will bet that our "bored" meditator was about to have some of those events burst into consciousness and he then make up the bored reason to come out of his meditation. Even if one is not aware of or partially aware of those reactive type events, they are slowly being released and more and more attention is becoming available for Self inquiry. One of the reasons people get hooked on drugs is because the drugs tend to detach one from that reactive historical bank. Aloha, Alton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Hi Vishnu, Thanks a lot. After I got your message, I tried rummaging through Osho's big "Book of Secrets" to find something on this subject, but there's no index and I gave up. I look forward to hearing more about it if you find something specific. Love, Rob - Vishu Naik RamanaMaharshi ; editor (AT) realization (DOT) org Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:47 AM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Quiet is boring? Hi Rob, I was reading osho books , in one of the books he has told about meditation and boredom. I searched a lot yesterday, but I have forgotten in which book he has said about this. I will find out and send that as soon as possible. Mean while www.oshoworld.com has many books.. I have found many answers. He has said boredom is quite natural during sadhana or meditation, but he has said how to transcend it. He has also said all sadgurus like Buddha, Mahaveera and so on have passed through this boredom. Love Vishu Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Community email addresses: Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi- List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/RamanaMaharshi Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 On a lighter note re. boredom. I remember a Buddhist monk once told us that he complained to a more senior monk that when he sat in meditation all he ever experienced was bordeom. To which the senior monk replied : "You still get boredom ! That's INTERESTING !" Vic >"Rob Sacks" <editor >RamanaMaharshi ><RamanaMaharshi> >Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Quiet is boring? >Fri, 14 Mar 2003 02:53:55 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from n18.grp.scd. ([66.218.66.73]) by >mc9-f31.bay6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Thu, 13 Mar >2003 23:59:02 -0800 >Received: from [66.218.66.94] by n18.grp.scd. with NNFMP; 14 Mar >2003 07:55:35 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 14 Mar 2003 07:55:34 -0000 >Received: (qmail 73308 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2003 07:55:34 -0000 >Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd. with QMQP; >14 Mar 2003 07:55:34 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO maynard.mail.mindspring.net) (207.69.200.243) >by mta3.grp.scd. with SMTP; 14 Mar 2003 07:55:34 -0000 >Received: from dialup-64.154.76.165.dial1.newyork1.level3.net >([64.154.76.165] helo=2bveb)by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim >3.33 #1)id 18tk2O-0000N3-00for RamanaMaharshi; Fri, 14 Mar >2003 02:55:32 -0500 >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Q1OJDRSDidP >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-360431-6608-1047628535-shivaguy108=hotmail.com >X-Sender: editor >X-Apparently-RamanaMaharshi >Message-ID: <009601c2e9fe$dd7b3740$a54c9a40@2bveb> >References: <20030313144711.39049.qmail >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 >X--Profile: bhakta0 >Mailing-List: list RamanaMaharshi; contact >RamanaMaharshi-owner >Delivered-mailing list RamanaMaharshi >Precedence: bulk >List-Un: <RamanaMaharshi> >Return-Path: >sentto-360431-6608-1047628535-shivaguy108=hotmail.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2003 07:59:03.0175 (UTC) >FILETIME=[942DB170:01C2E9FF] > >Hi Vishnu, > >Thanks a lot. After I got your message, I tried >rummaging through Osho's big "Book of Secrets" >to find something on this subject, but there's no >index and I gave up. I look forward to hearing >more about it if you find something specific. > >Love, > >Rob > - > Vishu Naik > RamanaMaharshi ; editor > Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:47 AM > Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Quiet is boring? > > > Hi Rob, > > I was reading osho books , in one of the books he has told about >meditation and boredom. I searched a lot yesterday, but I have forgotten in >which book he has said about this. I will find out and send that as soon as >possible. Mean while www.oshoworld.com has many books.. I have found many >answers. He has said boredom is quite natural during sadhana or meditation, >but he has said how to transcend it. He has also said all sadgurus like >Buddha, Mahaveera and so on have passed through this boredom. > > Love > > Vishu > > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > Sponsor > > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi- > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/RamanaMaharshi > > > > _______________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 I have found something about it. If I find some more I will send again :-) Osho Says.... Whatsoever you do, if you love it, it will never be repetitive. If you love your doings, your acts, there will be no boredom. But you don't love. I go on talking to you every day. I can go on ad infinitum. I love it. It is not repetitive for me. From eternity to eternity I can go on talking with you. Communication, to communicate with your heart, is love to me. It is not a repetitive act, otherwise I would get bored….People come to me; sometimes very sympathetically some friends ask me, "The whole day you are sitting in one room, not even looking out of the window. Don't you get bored?" I am with myself, why should I get bored? They say, "Just sitting alone, don't you get bored?"If I hate myself I will get bored, because you cannot live with a person you hate. You get bored with yourself; you cannot be alone. Even if you are alone for a few moments you get fidgety, you get uncomfortable, an uneasiness comes into your being. You long to meet someone, because you cannot remain with yourself. The company is so boring—your own company. You cannot look at your own face. You cannot touch your hand lovingly; no—impossible.They ask me—and their asking is relevant to their own reference, because they will get bored if they are alone—they ask me, "Don't you go out sometimes?" There is no need. Sometimes they ask me, "People come to you with the same problem again and again. Don't you get bored?"Because everyone has the same problem…. You are so unoriginal you cannot even create an original problem. Everyone has the same problem. Some are related with your love, with your sex, with your peace of mind, with your confusion, or something else—some psychology, some pathology, something—but man can be easily divided into seven categories, and there are the same questions, the seven basic questions, and people go on asking them. So friends ask me, "Don't you get bored?" I never get bored, because each individual is unique to me, and because of the individual, the problem he brings is not a repetition because the context is different, the individual is different. You come with your love problem, another comes with his love problem: both look similar but they are not, because two individuals are so different—their difference changes the quality of the problem.So if you categorize, you can categorize into seven categories—but I never categorize. Each individual is so unique that he cannot be put with anyone else. No category can be made. But then you have to have a very keen awareness to penetrate to the very root where the individual is unique. Otherwise, on the surface everyone is alike.Just on the surface everyone is alike, with the same problems, but if you penetrate deep, if you are alert and ready to move with the person to the deeper core of his being, the deeper you go, the more original, individual and unique a phenomenon comes into being. If you can see to the very center, this person before you is unrepeatable. He has never been before, he will never be again. He is just unique. And the mystery then overfills you—the mystery of the unique person.Nothing is a repetition if you know how to penetrate, how to be loving and alert. Otherwise everything is repetitive. Everybody is bored with himself. That's why when Buddha says, "Sitting silently, I have arrived, and bliss has happened to me," we listen to him but we don't believe him. Or maybe he is just an exception—because when you sit silently, only boredom happens and nothing else. You are bored because you have a consciousness which creates boredom. Change the consciousness, and there will be no boredom. But you go on changing objects—that will not make any difference. Love Vishu Hi Vishnu, Thanks a lot. After I got your message, I tried rummaging through Osho's big "Book of Secrets" to find something on this subject, but there's no index and I gave up. I look forward to hearing more about it if you find something specific. Love, Rob Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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