Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Turn off the radio. Notice that you exist. Continuing to go deeper: You know your mind. To know your mind, you must be able to perceive it As an object of perception. For you to know your mind, you must be something deeper Than your mind. Who are you? (Who am I? is the question to put to yourself.) ----- Copyright 2003 Richard Clarke We are not two, richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Dear Richard, thanks that you are sharing your meditative approaches in this group. I find them very good and helpful, especially this one here. In His grace Gabriele - Richard Clarke RamanaMaharshi Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:09 PM [RamanaMaharshi] Freeway Zen, 17 Turn off the radio.Notice that you exist.Continuing to go deeper:You know your mind.To know your mind, you must be able to perceive itAs an object of perception.For you to know your mind, you must be something deeperThan your mind. Who are you?(Who am I? is the question to put to yourself.)-----Copyright 2003 Richard ClarkeWe are not two,richard Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Dear Gabriele, I am glad that you find these mediations good and helpful. This particular meditation is from an angle of view that I am focused on for now. This body is insentient. It does not say "I." The senses change (from moment to moment, from waking state to dream state), are objective -- in that they are always known, they do not say "I" either. The mind takes the reality of Being and superimposes this Reality onto the senses, adds the "I"-thought and creates this world. This mind is objective -- it is always known. Who knows this mind? Perhaps there will be other mediations that will be of use to you at sometime in your practice. We are not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, "Gabriele Ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > Dear Richard, > thanks that you are sharing your meditative approaches in this group. > I find them very good and helpful, especially this one here. > > In His grace > Gabriele > > - > Richard Clarke > RamanaMaharshi > Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:09 PM > [RamanaMaharshi] Freeway Zen, 17 > > > Turn off the radio. > Notice that you exist. > > > > Continuing to go deeper: > > You know your mind. > To know your mind, you must be able to perceive it > As an object of perception. > > For you to know your mind, you must be something deeper > Than your mind. > > Who are you? > (Who am I? is the question to put to yourself.) > ----- > Copyright 2003 Richard Clarke > > We are not two, > richard > > > Sponsor > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Dear Richard, I am contemplating sometimes in a very similar form though not so in detail as you do, so it is very nice to read this and much enjoyed. The most interest "form" of mental change is that short moment before sleep and directly after awakening, when normal "awareness" is lost/re-gained - so this is proof that our normal recognition of awareness is not the true awareness. True awareness must be behind. I feel it but can't catch it yet - Can you? Yes, please download the whole Freeway Zen in the files section when finished. That's a good idea. Also I hope it will appear in print for many to read. In His Grace Gabriele RamanaMaharshi, "Richard Clarke" <r_clarke@i...> wrote: > Dear Gabriele, > > I am glad that you find these mediations good and helpful. > > This particular meditation is from an angle of view that I am > focused on for now. This body is insentient. It does not say "I." > The senses change (from moment to moment, from waking state to dream > state), are objective -- in that they are always known, they do not > say "I" either. The mind takes the reality of Being and superimposes > this Reality onto the senses, adds the "I"-thought and creates this > world. This mind is objective -- it is always known. Who knows this > mind? > > Perhaps there will be other mediations that will be of use to you at > sometime in your practice. > > We are not two, > Richard > > RamanaMaharshi, "Gabriele Ebert" > <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > > Dear Richard, > > thanks that you are sharing your meditative approaches in this > group. > > I find them very good and helpful, especially this one here. > > > > In His grace > > Gabriele > > > > - > > Richard Clarke > > RamanaMaharshi > > Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:09 PM > > [RamanaMaharshi] Freeway Zen, 17 > > > > > > Turn off the radio. > > Notice that you exist. > > > > > > > > Continuing to go deeper: > > > > You know your mind. > > To know your mind, you must be able to perceive it > > As an object of perception. > > > > For you to know your mind, you must be something deeper > > Than your mind. > > > > Who are you? > > (Who am I? is the question to put to yourself.) > > ----- > > Copyright 2003 Richard Clarke > > > > We are not two, > > richard > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > > Un: RamanaMaharshi > > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > > > > Terms of > Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Dear Gabriele, I feel like I have "Caught it" a few times, and have good glimpses at other times. Nome says that often seekers make a mistake by looking at "Big experiences" as a sign of progress. He says that often good progress is marked by such things as more focus on meditation. For now I just keep practicing, and look to the joy of practice. Here were places where I feel like I caught it. One time I was meditating before some meeting (not satsang or a retreat) at SAT, and it was like I "forgot" to power up my ego. Another time, while driving (Freeway Zen) to a vendor meeting, when I was meditating on "Who knows this?" Another time, while driving back from a client (more Freeway Zen), comtemplating a Zen Koan, (What is Buddha? 3 pounds of Flax.) (This experience is where my signature line, "Not two" comes from.) Another time, while driving, meditating on "What is the source of this love?" (yet more Freeway Zen) What I know is these experiences deepen my desire for liberation, increase my conviction (bhava) that what the sages say is Reality is Reality, and strengthens my focus on practice. We are not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, "gabriele_ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > Dear Richard, > I am contemplating sometimes in a very similar form though not so in > detail as you do, so it is very nice to read this and much enjoyed. > The most interest "form" of mental change is that short moment before > sleep and directly after awakening, when normal "awareness" is > lost/re-gained - so this is proof that our normal recognition of > awareness is not the true awareness. True awareness must be behind. I > feel it but can't catch it yet - Can you? > > Yes, please download the whole Freeway Zen in the files section when > finished. That's a good idea. Also I hope it will appear in print for > many to read. > > In His Grace > Gabriele > > Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Dear Richard, And at the moment it is felt that "it" is "caught" it is already gone. What a deep depression! Even to say that it is "caught" is very wrong. Mostly when questioning deep inside "Who am II" feel a great helplessness instead of any answer arising, sometimes even anguish. So vichara is felt to be a very hard practice. In His Grace Gabriele > I feel like I have "Caught it" a few times, and have good glimpses at > other times. Nome says that often seekers make a mistake by looking > at "Big experiences" as a sign of progress. He says that often good > progress is marked by such things as more focus on meditation. For > now I just keep practicing, and look to the joy of practice. > > Here were places where I feel like I caught it. > > One time I was meditating before some meeting (not satsang or a > retreat) at SAT, and it was like I "forgot" to power up my ego. > > Another time, while driving (Freeway Zen) to a vendor meeting, when I > was meditating on "Who knows this?" > > Another time, while driving back from a client (more Freeway Zen), > comtemplating a Zen Koan, (What is Buddha? 3 pounds of Flax.) (This > experience is where my signature line, "Not two" comes from.) > > Another time, while driving, meditating on "What is the source of > this love?" (yet more Freeway Zen) > > What I know is these experiences deepen my desire for liberation, > increase my conviction (bhava) that what the sages say is Reality is > Reality, and strengthens my focus on practice. > > We are not two, > Richard > > RamanaMaharshi, "gabriele_ebert" > <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > > Dear Richard, > > I am contemplating sometimes in a very similar form though not so > in > > detail as you do, so it is very nice to read this and much enjoyed. > > The most interest "form" of mental change is that short moment > before > > sleep and directly after awakening, when normal "awareness" is > > lost/re-gained - so this is proof that our normal recognition of > > awareness is not the true awareness. True awareness must be behind. > I > > feel it but can't catch it yet - Can you? > > > > Yes, please download the whole Freeway Zen in the files section > when > > finished. That's a good idea. Also I hope it will appear in print > for > > many to read. > > > > In His Grace > > Gabriele > > > Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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