Guest guest Posted May 21, 2003 Report Share Posted May 21, 2003 Like the diver who dives to recover what has fallen into deep water, controlling speach and breath and with a keen mind, one must dive into himself and find whence the 'I' emerges. ~~~~~~~~~ S.S. Cohen ~~~~~~~~~ Discover the real source of the ego, by exploring within, with keen intellect, by regulating breath, speech and mind As one would do to recover a thing which has fallen into a deep well. ~~~~~~~~~~~ A.R. Natarajan ~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Greetings to all: I just joined the group. We live in a hectic world which sucks up our attention. We lose composure and abidance in the Self. Moreover, the ego battles and fools us into diversions. Has anyone used any kind of personal method to keep oneself on track while engaging the world? Any tactics? Any mechanisms? Do you put anything in place that steers you correctly? I know that the answer would to ask oneself who is it that undergoes this problem and jump back on track into atma vichar. I've done that. I found myself losing interest in everything to the extent that one cannot engage effectively in this world. I found myself avoiding and rejecting things. Nevertheless, with worldly responsibilities one cannot afford that. I'm just curious to know how my fellow seekers approach this? Ram ========================================================= On Wed, 21 May 2003 23:23:58 +0200, Gabriele Ebert <g.ebert wrote: > Like the diver who dives to recover what has fallen into deep water, > controlling speach and breath and with a keen mind, one must dive into > himself and find whence the 'I' emerges. > > ~~~~~~~~~ > S.S. Cohen > ~~~~~~~~~ > > Discover the real source of the ego, by exploring within, with keen > intellect, by regulating breath, speech and mind As one would do to > recover a thing which has fallen into a deep well. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > A.R. Natarajan > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 Dear Ram, I think I know what you mean with "losing interest in everything". It may come as a phase. It passes bye. I have also struggling with this since more than 1 year. There was a time I though I could not longer attend to my job. Nevertheless things went on all the time - this is out of our choice. Indeed "great" things happened especially during that time. So don't worry. What one can learn in this phase it detachment. So it is not worse. What is learned is that things really go on by itself - and that's amazing. God acts through us all the time. If you once see it like that it`s amazing and with that the joy comes back. Let God work through you as He chooses. Be His instrument. This is a good foundation for atma vichara. Yours in Sri Ramana Gabriele - Ram Sambamurthy ramanamaharshi Friday, May 23, 2003 12:58 PM Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Forty Verses, V. 28 Greetings to all:I just joined the group.We live in a hectic world which sucks up our attention. We lose composure and abidance in the Self. Moreover, the ego battles and fools us into diversions.Has anyone used any kind of personal method to keep oneself on track while engaging the world? Any tactics? Any mechanisms? Do you put anything in place that steers you correctly?I know that the answer would to ask oneself who is it that undergoes this problem and jump back on track into atma vichar. I've done that. I found myself losing interest in everything to the extent that one cannot engage effectively in this world. I found myself avoiding and rejecting things. Nevertheless, with worldly responsibilities one cannot afford that.I'm just curious to know how my fellow seekers approach this?Ram=========================================================On Wed, 21 May 2003 23:23:58 +0200, Gabriele Ebert <g.ebert (AT) gmx (DOT) de> wrote:> Like the diver who dives to recover what has fallen into deep water, > controlling speach and breath and with a keen mind, one must dive into > himself and find whence the 'I' emerges.>> ~~~~~~~~~> S.S. Cohen> ~~~~~~~~~>> Discover the real source of the ego, by exploring within, with keen > intellect, by regulating breath, speech and mind As one would do to > recover a thing which has fallen into a deep well.>> ~~~~~~~~~~~> A.R. Natarajan> ~~~~~~~~~~~>Community email addresses: Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-ownerShortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 Dear Ram, If I may add a few words ... Long before Ramana Maharshi was Sankara, who taught of the "Requisites for Realization." These are: Discrimination Detachment The six essentials Peacefullness Self Control Renunciation Fortitude Faith Deep profound meditation Desire for liberation >From this point of view then, "losing interest in everything" seems like detachment, and is a real benefit to one who seeks Self- realization. The focus of my own practice has been for the last few years discrimination. I continue to look within my experiences as a seeming individual in the world and to see deeply what is constant and what changes. How can I be that which is changing? I also look to see what is "objecdtive," what is known. I must be closer to he who knows that what is known. Who am I? Welcome to the group. Please continue posting your questions. Also you might want to look in thie "files" section of this newsgroup. There are a number of usefrul things posted there for you to read (including two small books that I have written and posted there). We are not two, Richard RamanaMaharshi, "Gabriele Ebert" <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > Dear Ram, > I think I know what you mean with "losing interest in everything". It may come as a phase. It passes bye. > I have also struggling with this since more than 1 year. There was a time I though I could not longer attend > to my job. Nevertheless things went on all the time - this is out of our choice. Indeed "great" things happened especially > during that time. So don't worry. What one can learn in this phase it detachment. So it is not worse. > What is learned is that things really go on by itself - and that's amazing. God acts through us all the time. > If you once see it like that it`s amazing and with that the joy comes back. Let God work through you as He chooses. > Be His instrument. This is a good foundation for atma vichara. > > Yours in Sri Ramana > Gabriele > > - > Ram Sambamurthy > ramanamaharshi > Friday, May 23, 2003 12:58 PM > Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Forty Verses, V. 28 > > > Greetings to all: > > I just joined the group. > > We live in a hectic world which sucks up our attention. We lose composure > and abidance in the Self. Moreover, the ego battles and fools us into > diversions. > > Has anyone used any kind of personal method to keep oneself on track while > engaging the world? Any tactics? Any mechanisms? Do you put anything in > place that steers you correctly? > > I know that the answer would to ask oneself who is it that undergoes this > problem and jump back on track into atma vichar. I've done that. I found > myself losing interest in everything to the extent that one cannot engage > effectively in this world. I found myself avoiding and rejecting things. > Nevertheless, with worldly responsibilities one cannot afford that. > > I'm just curious to know how my fellow seekers approach this? > > Ram > > ========================================================= > > > On Wed, 21 May 2003 23:23:58 +0200, Gabriele Ebert <g.ebert@g...> wrote: > > > Like the diver who dives to recover what has fallen into deep water, > > controlling speach and breath and with a keen mind, one must dive into > > himself and find whence the 'I' emerges. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > S.S. Cohen > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Discover the real source of the ego, by exploring within, with keen > > intellect, by regulating breath, speech and mind As one would do to > > recover a thing which has fallen into a deep well. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > > A.R. Natarajan > > ~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > Post message: RamanaMaharshi > Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- > Un: RamanaMaharshi > List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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