Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 This posting sent to me by Sri V.Ganesan i am passing on to the Group . > S U R R E N D E R > > Visitor : What is self-surrender ? > > Bhagavan : It is the same as mind-control. The ego submits when it recognises the higher > authority > of the Atman. This is the beginning of surrender. Although the ego cannot > exist without > the Self, yet, due to its ignorance of this fact, it remains rebellious, and > acts on its > own initiatives and by its own will. > > V.:-- How can the rebellious ego be subjugated ? > > B.:-- Either by seeking its Source, when it automatically disappears, or, by deliberately > surrendering > all its actions, motives and decisions, striking thereby at its root. Habits create > the false > notion that thinking is a permanent institution, with which it is impossible to > dispense; but > enquiry and discrimination will blast this fallacy. None succeeds without effort and > the > successful few owe their victory to perseverance. > > V.:-- People prostrate God or the Guru to prove, I suppose, or at least to show their > surrender. > > B.:-- True surrender is the melting of the ego in its Source, the Heart. God is not deceived > by > physical genuflections; what He sees in the worshipper is how much of the ego remains > in full control and how much is on the verse of self-destruction. > > * * * * * * * > > > V.:-- I want confirmation of the Self. > > B.:-- You seek confirmation of yourself from others ? How do you know that others exist ? > > V.:-- By my senses. > > B.:-- 'My' implies the 'I', which owns the senses. You take your existence for granted, at the > same > time ask others to prove it to you. Similarly, you admit the certainty of your > senses, which > sees others, whilst denying all certainty. You see how you contradict yourself. The > fact is > that there are no others; there is no such a person as 'you'. Each man, although > addressed > as 'you', styles himself as 'I'. Even the confirmation you demand from others comes > only > from the 'I'. 'You' and 'they' occur only to the 'I', without which they are > meaningless. > > * * * * * * > > --- from > S.S.Cohen's Guru Ramana, pp.52 & > > 32 > > Have a Happy Day ! > > Love & Regards, > Ganesan. > ______________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger http://uk.messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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