" Love And Blessings From Arunachala "

[Guest guest]

---Sri "V. Ganesan" <anandaramana writes and he is pleased to share

it with all .

 

 

> Pranams.

>

> It is always elevating to have spiritual 'sharing' ! The 'credit' for and

> 'benefit' by such

> sharing is ever equal, only, viz., 50% + 50% and never in unequal

> proportions. The

> speaker or witer in such spiritual sharing is in no way greater than the

> listener or reader

> of the spiritual message. This is the secret of our 'Sanatana Dharma',

> which still

> thrives, gloriously too, through a Ganesan-Gopi Krishna-sharing ! Giving

> either lectures

> or holding the lecturer higher than the listener, inspite of all the

> erudition of the speaker,

> is a Western approach. Here, logic and intellectual clarity alone will be

> there; true

> spirituality will be missing. Spiritual wealth is no one's exclusive

> property. It is

> the 'Whole' (Poorna'), which, because it is 'Whole', includes all the

> ignorance, lack of

> clarity, imperfections and immaturity, in it's bosom. So, the listener is

> ever equal to the

> speaker; the reader is always at par with the writer. Vedic Rishis, of

> yore, treated all

> the 'sishyas' (disciples) as his equal, only. Hence, the 'Upanishads' which

> contain

> their teachings, are ever fresh and 'living', even today. Any one, however

> naive or

> ignorant he may be, reading them is blessed with spiritual 'presence' -

> landing him

> in the realm of 'faith', 'devotion' and 'silence' ! To affirm this

> spiritual truth, repeatedly

> Mahatmas are made to be born, who live and show us that this Incomparable

> Spiritual Truth is common to 'all' and is 'attainable', in this life itself

> ! Without

> infusing into us this 'confidence', all forms of highest teachings will only

> remain as an

> Utopion Concept, unreachable by the 'so called' common man ! Bhagavan

> Ramana

> repeatedly emphasised : "Truth is ever attained. The only obstacle to It is

> the

> 'thought' that It is very difficult to attain It !"

 

> When any of you happen to be at Arunachala, do come and visit me. I love to

be in

> the midst of

> earnest seekers !

>

> Namaskarams.

>

> Love,

> Ganesan.

>

> * * * * *

> *

>

> Poojya Sri Ganesan Garu,

>

> Love and Saashtaanga Pranams

>

> I happened to read Your mail addressed to Mr. Alan Jacob, who, with Your

> kind permission, posted it in "Sri Ramana Community Group" yesterday. I had

> Your divine blessings more than two years ago, when I along with another

> Swamiji (Swami Ananda) met you in Your cottage. At that time a small notice

> saying "I am on retreat. Kindly bless me by not disturbing" was hanging to

> the gate but sill we mustered courage to venture into the compound to have

> Your darshan and blessings. Fortunately, You have very kindly permitted us

> to spend five minutes with you. You blessed me by explaining the

> significance of "Paada Namaskarams" and why one should do that when one

> visits Elders. Those words are still ringing in my ears. Many thanks for

> Your kind blessings Sir.

>

> This mail is to recollect that wonderful experience and also to beg You to

> kindly bless me and also to pray for me for my spiritual progress and

> upliftment.

>

> Love and Saashtaanga Pada Namaskarams.

>

> Gopi KRishna.

>

>

> ========

>

>

> Contemplate On the following Words of Wisdom of Guru Ramana :

>

> " Though this Who Am I ? enquiry also is a mental operation, it destroys

> all mental operations, including itself, just as the stick with which the

> funeral pyre is stirred is itself reduced to ashes after the pyre and

> corpses have been burnt. Only then comes Realization of the Self. .....True

> Bhakti (devotion) is surrender of the ego to the Self........ There is no

> other adequate method except Self-Enquiry. If the mind is lulled by other

> means it stays quiet for a little and then springs up again and resumes its

> former activity....The more you withdraw into the Self, the more these

> tendencies wither, and finally they drop off. Never yield room in your mind

> for such doubts ['Is it really possible to root out all these tendencies

> that have soaked into our minds through many births ?'], but dive into the

> Self with firm resolve. If the mind is constantly directed to the Self by

> this enquiry, it is eventually dissolved and transformed into the Self.

> When you feel any doubt, do not try to elucidate it but to know who it is

> to whom the doubt occurs." Let this be your 'mantra' to be recited on the

> 23rd. Pray, relentlessly too, to Sri Bhagavan, to bless you with Atma

> Sakshatkar, which is the only aim and goal of 'Life' ! i will also pray for

> you ......

>

> Love,

>

> Ganesan.

>

> On this 23rd, the planet 'Guru' makes a move, which He does after a lapse of

> 12 years, and; which is very efficacious for all practising 'sadhaks' to

> attain an ascendency !

>

> P. Gopi Krishna

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>

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>

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Dear Sri Alan-ji and Dear Sri Ganesan-ji:

 

Thanks for all your postings.

 

In my heart, I long to see and be with Sri Ganesan-ji who is

called "Mahathma Ganesan" by Sri. UARELOVE;

 

Is Sri. Ganesan-ji planning to visit California? If yes, where is he

going to be and when? If not, can he make it convenient to bless us

all by visiting us? I pray to Bhagavan that he enables a visit by Sri

Ganesan-ji to Southern California where we will be blessed with his

stay in this house.

 

thanks and love to you all, Murthy

 

RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs

<alanadamsjacobs> wrote:

> ---Sri "V. Ganesan" <anandaramana@v...> writes and he is pleased

to share it with all .

>

>

> > Pranams.

> >

> > It is always elevating to have spiritual 'sharing' !

The 'credit' for and

[Guest guest]

Dear Murthy,

 

>From what I read earlier today it seems that Sri

Ganesan will be coming to Ojai, California. That is

in Southern California near Santa Barbara I believe.

 

But don't forget that the Self is in the Heart at all

times. You may turn outwards to wish for Ganesan.

But you can turn inwards to the Self. Of course the

Self is everywhere and at all times.

 

Quite a paradox isn't it? Or is it?

 

regards

 

michael

--- manof678 <manof678 wrote:

> Dear Sri Alan-ji and Dear Sri Ganesan-ji:

>

> Thanks for all your postings.

>

> In my heart, I long to see and be with Sri

> Ganesan-ji who is

> called "Mahathma Ganesan" by Sri. UARELOVE;

>

> Is Sri. Ganesan-ji planning to visit California? If

> yes, where is he

> going to be and when? If not, can he make it

> convenient to bless us

> all by visiting us? I pray to Bhagavan that he

> enables a visit by Sri

> Ganesan-ji to Southern California where we will be

> blessed with his

> stay in this house.

>

> thanks and love to you all, Murthy

>

> RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs

> <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:

> > ---Sri "V. Ganesan" <anandaramana@v...> writes

> and he is pleased

> to share it with all .

> >

> >

> > > Pranams.

> > >

> > > It is always elevating to have spiritual

> 'sharing' !

> The 'credit' for and

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Murthy , I will forward your request to Sri Ganesan .Perhaps he will reply

to you directly

?.Love, in Ramana, Alan

 

 

--- manof678 <manof678 wrote: > Dear Sri Alan-ji and Dear Sri

Ganesan-ji:

>

> Thanks for all your postings.

>

> In my heart, I long to see and be with Sri Ganesan-ji who is

> called "Mahathma Ganesan" by Sri. UARELOVE;

>

> Is Sri. Ganesan-ji planning to visit California? If yes, where is he

> going to be and when? If not, can he make it convenient to bless us

> all by visiting us? I pray to Bhagavan that he enables a visit by Sri

> Ganesan-ji to Southern California where we will be blessed with his

> stay in this house.

>

> thanks and love to you all, Murthy

>

> RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs

> <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:

> > ---Sri "V. Ganesan" <anandaramana@v...> writes and he is pleased

> to share it with all .

> >

> >

> > > Pranams.

> > >

> > > It is always elevating to have spiritual 'sharing' !

> The 'credit' for and

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Michael-ji:

 

Thanks for the info. Yes, I think also that Ojai is near Santa

Barbara somewhere. It is kind of far but not non-drivable. Do you

have the itinerary? If so, could you please send it or point it to

me? thanks much.

 

As regards turning inwards, I am trying. It is great to be here in

these groups learning about various experiences. For ex. Sri.

UARELOVE's postings and links have lots of useful and direct

teachings from Bhagavan as well as his mature devotees. I am

currently reading Part I thru IV of Sri Ramana Vazhi (Path) by Sri

Sadhu Om in original Tamil and like Sri. Michael says, Sri. Sadhu Om's

suggested practice method is directly hitting the nail on the head.

 

But I find that intellectual knowledge and even conceptual acceptance

is not sufficient (at least for me) to start moving in the right

direction. One may immediately say "Don't move, because Self is

already here and now so you don't need to move in any direction";

 

All these sound nice and even logical and even acceptable but

habitual pull of senses and mind (however illusory they are)

continues and the individual soul is swerved and pushed and pulled

while being in the active samsaric or householder life.

 

Even Bhagavan (seemed to have) accepted in His infinite Compassion

that there are different levels of maturity in different souls and

hence accepted their "way" or "practice" as useful and even suggested

them to continue with it.

 

Sri. Sadhu Om does suggest that if one's objective is to go from Town

A to Town B, then they should learn to ride the bicycle in the same

road that leads from A to B. He also points out that if you learn to

ride in the road from A to another town C that is in the opposite

direction, you are wasting your time and also making the journey

longer. This sounds very logical and acceptable intellectually.

 

But the earnest (not egoistic) mind also raises the following point

which I don't know how Sri. Sadhu Om would have responded to: how

about practicing riding the cycle in a ground for some time and once

you are familir with the act of riding the bicycle, then get on to

the right road that takes you from A to B?

 

So, yielding to the power of Inner and All-pervading Self, I think,

INCLUDES going after a more mature soul like Sri Ganesan-ji to get

additional 'push' from outside. Afterall, if one is very mature

(pakvi) then there is no 'inward' or 'outward' isn't it ?

 

That's my thoughts as a response to your suggestion. Sorry, it bacame

long-winded. It is indeed a Paradox. Or is it?

 

Thank you again for the information and the suggestion. It is well

taken and is being tried sincerely (though, with Bhagavan's Grace the

sincerity will increase many folds).

 

love, Murthy

 

RamanaMaharshi, Michael Bowes

<rmichaelbowes> wrote:

> Dear Murthy,

>

> From what I read earlier today it seems that Sri

> Ganesan will be coming to Ojai, California. That is

> in Southern California near Santa Barbara I believe.

>

> But don't forget that the Self is in the Heart at all

> times. You may turn outwards to wish for Ganesan.

> But you can turn inwards to the Self. Of course the

> Self is everywhere and at all times.

>

> Quite a paradox isn't it? Or is it?

>

> regards

>

> michael

> --- manof678 <manof678> wrote:

> > Dear Sri Alan-ji and Dear Sri Ganesan-ji:

> >

> > Thanks for all your postings.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Alan-ji:

 

thanks much for your help;

 

love, Murthy

 

RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs

<alanadamsjacobs> wrote:

> Dear Murthy , I will forward your request to Sri Ganesan .Perhaps

he will reply to you directly

> ?.Love, in Ramana, Alan

>

>

> --- manof678 <manof678> wrote: > Dear Sri Alan-ji and Dear

Sri Ganesan-ji:

> >

> > Thanks for all your postings.

> >

> > In my heart, I long to see and be with Sri Ganesan-ji who is

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Murthy,

 

I read that Sri Ganesan is going to be at Ojai for one

week around the time of October 20. According to what

Sri Alan Jacobs wrote Sri Ganesan is to be staying at

the guest house associated with the J. Krishnamurti

foundation in Ojai, CA. Here is the link:

http://www.kfa.org/retreat.htm

The telephone number there is: 805-646-4773 and their

email address is: retreat. I sincerely hope

that you are able to meet Sri Ganesan. The email that

I read about Sri Ganesan's sojourn there was a bit

ambiguous to me however. It mentioned something to

the effect that Sri Ganesan was going there on

retreat. I don't know what that means. Surely if a

person like Sri Ganesan didn't want to meet with

devotees then he wouldn't have announced his

itinerary. But who knows? I'm sure that you will get

to the bottom of it. There is plenty of time.

 

And my dear friend let me try to clarify the very

brief and perhaps terse statement that I made in my

last email. I understand that different persons are

on somewhat different stages in their lives.

Obviously human teachers and human gurus are

beneficial to us all. But a lot of time and energy

can be wasted by chasing around trying to find a

"human" guru. And in my experience it is rare for a

person to find the type of "push" that one might

expect to get. It does happen and of course sometimes

great spiritual initiations take place, so why not

try? But please consider the following:

 

I have been amongst the most evil of all persons. I

was truly mean and dangerous. I committed many

horrible acts. I am not joking; but you will

understand in a moment why I am confessing this to you

and the rest of this group. I must digress a moment.

I was born into a very religious Christian family.

And even though I was an evil child, I always wanted

to know God. The priests and nuns of our church and

school disappointed me greatly. Many of them were

crazier than I. And on and on my evil life went

always wanting to realize spiritual truth and always

looking for the true path and someone who could help

me.

 

One day I discovered classic Ashtanga Yoga. The Yoga

of Patanjali. I began to practice as earnestly as I

could; but I yearned for a deeper experience. In my

desperation I cried out to God. God you must help me

or I will die. I intended to kill myself. None of us

have time for all of the details associated with the

rest of this story; but understand this: The inner

Guru, the true Guru, the Sadguru immediately answered

my earnest cry. The inner guru has led me by the hand

ever since that day. Just like a loving mother and

father takes care of their child, the Sadguru has

taken care of me. Everything fell into place.

 

You too have an inner guru. There is only one

guru--one SELF. If the guru, the SELF would answer

me, a truly evil man, then why wouldn't the guru the

SELF answer anyone? Why wouldn't the SELF also guide

you: And understand this: Persons can chase the

world over for yogis, and gurus, and babas and they

might even find a true one. But you know, the guru

resides right in your very own heart. And when this

guru speaks, when you are initiated by this guru there

is no doubt, there is no wondering. The inner guru

initiates with undeniable diksha it is easy to proceed

with every ounce of one's strength and determination.

Success comes quickly in this way.

 

The words that I wrote that I wrote to you in my

previous email were written to you because I suffer to

know that persons are longing for liberation and going

through all kinds of unnecessary gyrations just on the

chance that so and so guru or baba or somebody might

be the key to their spiritual life. You see, persons

find some teacher; but usually there isn't any

transfer of shakti. The teacher looks at them, or

gives them some mantra, or gives them some practice,

or just talks to them, or screams at them, or

whatever. A person then tries to do what the teacher

said; but after a time once again the disciple doesn't

get anything and then they think they need to try

another teacher. And on and on it goes, lifetime

after lifetime.

 

And please don't misunderstand me, I have nothing

against Sri Ganesan or anyone else. And, dear Murthy,

I hope that you find your guru, it could happen; but

the Sadguru, the SELF dwells in your very own heart.

Call on God with sincerity and you cannot fail.

 

regards

 

michael

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- manof678 <manof678 wrote:

> Dear Michael-ji:

>

> Thanks for the info. Yes, I think also that Ojai is

> near Santa

> Barbara somewhere.