Message About AHAM's New Web Site! / american ramana

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i once saw a footage with our video satsang group where we watch a

variety of videos from different gurus each week. in one of them an

elderly bearded american was talking, what seemed to be more new age

type of concepts about manifesting our own reality, etc. i asked

someone who this person was. he told me the person in the video was

ramana. i honestly didn't get it and asked a few times till i

realized this person on the video had named himself ramana. someone

also mentioned his aham site.

 

now i'm not opposed to anyone calling themselves ramana. i just

could not comprehend it at first. i also understand the difficulty

of taking up that name and living up to it in our "minds" since he'll

be forever compared and judged...and yet i could not help noticing

how this american ramana's teachings had very little to do with my

impression of reading ramana maharshi's books. again i am not

opposed to the artistic licence when it comes to interpreting

ramana's teachings either.

 

i wonder what others think in this group about their experience of

reading/watching the american ramana.

 

hur

 

 

 

RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs

<alanadamsjacobs> wrote:

> Dear Friends , the enclosed information may be of interest to

members .The Self-Inquiry section

> is worth a visit ,in my oppinion.Regards to all , Alan

>

>

>

>

> --- AHAM - Association of Happiness for All Mankind

<ahamcntr@a...> wrote: > Dear Alan

> Jacobs,

> >

> > Today, we have opened our new AHAM web site to the world. It

marks the

> > beginning of the Commemoration Celebration of AHAM1s 25th year of

service

> > to the spiritual humanity. The actual anniversary date is August

24th, and

> > the main celebration is scheduled for next weekend.

> >

> > We request that you please visit our new site and then please

send us a

> > message sharing your thoughts and feeling about it.

> >

> > If you like the new site, please add it to your Favorites

Section, and also

> > please share the address with your friends. Also come back and

visit it

> > often, we will be adding new material to it on a monthly basis.

> >

> > We still have several more pages yet to complete in the next

week, and hope

> > to have most if not all of them finished by next weekend.

> >

> > The site is located at www.aham.com

> >

> > You can also directly visit our special new "Self-Inquiry Flash

> > Presentation," which in itself is a Conscious Process, without

having to go

> > through the regular site. It is located at www.aham.com/self-

inquiry You

> > may have to copy and paste the locations in your internet

server. The main

> > home page address, located in our signature banner below, should

be

> > accessible by simply clicking the address, which is linked.

> >

> > Again, we respectfully request that you please give us your

feedback when

> > you have visited our beautiful new site.

> >

> > With love and best wishes,

> >

> > Your friends at AHAM

> >

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > AHAM - The Association of Happiness for All Mankind

> > AHAM Meditation Retreat & Spiritual Training Center w Asheboro,

NC. USA

> > Phone: (336) 381-3988 w Fax: (336) 381-3881 w India Phone:

04175 237383

> > E-mail: ahamcntr@a... w E-mail in India: arunaham@v...

> > Please visit (and bookmark) our web site: http://www.aham.com

> >

>

>

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Dear Hur,

 

I have to say that I would prefer that contemporary teachers NOT take

the name "Ramana."

 

To me the teachings of Ramana are revered, and to have another using

that name only brings confusion.

 

We have the One, Ramana. That is all we need.

 

We are not two,

Richard

 

RamanaMaharshi, "Hur Guler" <hurg> wrote:

> i once saw a footage with our video satsang group where we watch a

> variety of videos from different gurus each week. in one of them

an

> elderly bearded american was talking, what seemed to be more new

age

> type of concepts about manifesting our own reality, etc. i asked

> someone who this person was. he told me the person in the video

was

> ramana. i honestly didn't get it and asked a few times till i

> realized this person on the video had named himself ramana.

someone

> also mentioned his aham site.

>

> now i'm not opposed to anyone calling themselves ramana. i just

> could not comprehend it at first. i also understand the difficulty

> of taking up that name and living up to it in our "minds" since

he'll

> be forever compared and judged...and yet i could not help noticing

> how this american ramana's teachings had very little to do with my

> impression of reading ramana maharshi's books. again i am not

> opposed to the artistic licence when it comes to interpreting

> ramana's teachings either.

>

> i wonder what others think in this group about their experience of

> reading/watching the american ramana.

>

> hur

>

>

>

> RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs

> <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:

> > Dear Friends , the enclosed information may be of interest to

> members .The Self-Inquiry section

> > is worth a visit ,in my oppinion.Regards to all , Alan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- AHAM - Association of Happiness for All Mankind

> <ahamcntr@a...> wrote: > Dear Alan

> > Jacobs,

> > >

> > > Today, we have opened our new AHAM web site to the world. It

> marks the

> > > beginning of the Commemoration Celebration of AHAM1s 25th year

of

> service

> > > to the spiritual humanity. The actual anniversary date is

August

> 24th, and

> > > the main celebration is scheduled for next weekend.

> > >

> > > We request that you please visit our new site and then please

> send us a

> > > message sharing your thoughts and feeling about it.

> > >

> > > If you like the new site, please add it to your Favorites

> Section, and also

> > > please share the address with your friends. Also come back and

> visit it

> > > often, we will be adding new material to it on a monthly basis.

> > >

> > > We still have several more pages yet to complete in the next

> week, and hope

> > > to have most if not all of them finished by next weekend.

> > >

> > > The site is located at www.aham.com

> > >

> > > You can also directly visit our special new "Self-Inquiry Flash

> > > Presentation," which in itself is a Conscious Process, without

> having to go

> > > through the regular site. It is located at www.aham.com/self-

> inquiry You

> > > may have to copy and paste the locations in your internet

> server. The main

> > > home page address, located in our signature banner below,

should

> be

> > > accessible by simply clicking the address, which is linked.

> > >

> > > Again, we respectfully request that you please give us your

> feedback when

> > > you have visited our beautiful new site.

> > >

> > > With love and best wishes,

> > >

> > > Your friends at AHAM

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > AHAM - The Association of Happiness for All Mankind

> > > AHAM Meditation Retreat & Spiritual Training Center w

Asheboro,

> NC. USA

> > > Phone: (336) 381-3988 w Fax: (336) 381-3881 w India Phone:

> 04175 237383

> > > E-mail: ahamcntr@a... w E-mail in India: arunaham@v...

> > > Please visit (and bookmark) our web site: http://www.aham.com

> > >

> >

> >

>

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---Dear Hur , I am not in any way connected with AHAM but admire their

publications and the fact

that they intoduce people to the basic concepts which may lead to a deeper

experience-or not .I

gather from hear-say that Ramana[their Leader] from AHAM was given this name by

Muktananda who

recognised that the Maharshi was his Sat-Guru .He also had experiences which

confirmed this for

him .I have had no experience of the organisation - they have many members and

run retreats , and

publish Ramana Literature .They have their own Ashram at Tiru .Sri V.Ganesan

visits them .Perhaps

other members may wish to add to this information ,as you request .Every best

wish ,in Ramana's

Grace, Alan

 

 

 

 

 

Hur Guler <hurg wrote: > i once saw a footage with our video satsang

group where we

watch a

> variety of videos from different gurus each week. in one of them an

> elderly bearded american was talking, what seemed to be more new age

> type of concepts about manifesting our own reality, etc. i asked

> someone who this person was. he told me the person in the video was

> ramana. i honestly didn't get it and asked a few times till i

> realized this person on the video had named himself ramana. someone

> also mentioned his aham site.

>

> now i'm not opposed to anyone calling themselves ramana. i just

> could not comprehend it at first. i also understand the difficulty

> of taking up that name and living up to it in our "minds" since he'll

> be forever compared and judged...and yet i could not help noticing

> how this american ramana's teachings had very little to do with my

> impression of reading ramana maharshi's books. again i am not

> opposed to the artistic licence when it comes to interpreting

> ramana's teachings either.

>

> i wonder what others think in this group about their experience of

> reading/watching the american ramana.

>

> hur

>

>

>

> RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs

> <alanadamsjacobs> wrote:

> > Dear Friends , the enclosed information may be of interest to

> members .The Self-Inquiry section

> > is worth a visit ,in my oppinion.Regards to all , Alan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- AHAM - Association of Happiness for All Mankind

> <ahamcntr@a...> wrote: > Dear Alan

> > Jacobs,

> > >

> > > Today, we have opened our new AHAM web site to the world. It

> marks the

> > > beginning of the Commemoration Celebration of AHAM1s 25th year of

> service

> > > to the spiritual humanity. The actual anniversary date is August

> 24th, and

> > > the main celebration is scheduled for next weekend.

> > >

> > > We request that you please visit our new site and then please

> send us a

> > > message sharing your thoughts and feeling about it.

> > >

> > > If you like the new site, please add it to your Favorites

> Section, and also

> > > please share the address with your friends. Also come back and

> visit it

> > > often, we will be adding new material to it on a monthly basis.

> > >

> > > We still have several more pages yet to complete in the next

> week, and hope

> > > to have most if not all of them finished by next weekend.

> > >

> > > The site is located at www.aham.com

> > >

> > > You can also directly visit our special new "Self-Inquiry Flash

> > > Presentation," which in itself is a Conscious Process, without

> having to go

> > > through the regular site. It is located at www.aham.com/self-

> inquiry You

> > > may have to copy and paste the locations in your internet

> server. The main

> > > home page address, located in our signature banner below, should

> be

> > > accessible by simply clicking the address, which is linked.

> > >

> > > Again, we respectfully request that you please give us your

> feedback when

> > > you have visited our beautiful new site.

> > >

> > > With love and best wishes,

> > >

> > > Your friends at AHAM

> > >

> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> > > AHAM - The Association of Happiness for All Mankind

> > > AHAM Meditation Retreat & Spiritual Training Center w Asheboro,

> NC. USA

> > > Phone: (336) 381-3988 w Fax: (336) 381-3881 w India Phone:

> 04175 237383

> > > E-mail: ahamcntr@a... w E-mail in India: arunaham@v...

> > > Please visit (and bookmark) our web site: http://www.aham.com

> > >

> >

> >

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Dear Sri Hur,

 

--- Hur Guler <hurg wrote:

i asked

> someone who this person was. he told me the person

> in the video was

> ramana. i honestly didn't get it and asked a few

> times till i

> realized this person on the video had named himself

> ramana.....

>

> ....now i'm not opposed to anyone calling themselves

> ramana. i just

> could not comprehend it at first. i also understand

> the difficulty

> of taking up that name and living up to it in our

> "minds" since he'll

> be forever compared and judged...

 

 

According to the AHAM website, Arunachala Ramana

didn't not give his ownSELF that name; but his guru

Yogananda gave him that name.

 

I have not met Sri Arunachala Ramana; but just like

you and he and me and we, all is the SELF. There

isn't anything to live up to. The idea of distinction

is ignorance.

 

Love,

 

michael

 

 

 

 

 

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> Michael Bowes <rmichaelbowes

> 2003/08/18 Mon PM 12:44:57 EDT

> RamanaMaharshi

> Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Re: Message About AHAM's New Web Site! /

american ramana

 

 

Dear Sri Hur,

 

 

According to the AHAM website, Arunachala Ramana

didn't not give his ownSELF that name; but his guru

Yogananda gave him that name.

 

I have not met Sri Arunachala Ramana; but just like

you and he and me and we, all is the SELF. There

isn't anything to live up to. The idea of distinction

is ignorance.

 

Love,

 

michael

 

Dear Sri Michael,

 

The idea of no-distinction is ignorance as well.

 

Love,

Harsha

 

 

 

"Love itself is the actual form of God."

 

Ramana Maharshi

Dear Sri Hur,

--- Hur Guler <hurg > wrote:

i asked

> someone who this person was. he told me the person

> in the video was

> ramana. i honestly didn't get it and asked a few

> times till i

> realized this person on the video had named himself

> ramana.....

>

> ....now i'm not opposed to anyone calling themselves

> ramana. i just

> could not comprehend it at first. i also understand

> the difficulty

> of taking up that name and living up to it in our

> "minds" since he'll

> be forever compared and judged...

According to the AHAM website, Arunachala Ramana

didn't not give his ownSELF that name; but his guru

Yogananda gave him that name.

I have not met Sri Arunachala Ramana; but just like

you and he and me and we, all is the SELF. There

isn't anything to live up to. The idea of distinction

is ignorance.

Love,

michael

 

 

 

 

 

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om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

 

http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2002-10-02/news.html

 

Dear Hur,

 

In the mail today, I received the above web address, which apparently links

to an interesting article about AHAM.

 

Miles.

=========

> i wonder what others think in this group about their experience of

> reading/watching the american ramana.

>

> hur

[Guest guest]

thanks miles for posting this interesting article. as much as i try

to keep an open mind, i suppose i tend to have a skeptical mind. i

remember when i was watching the american ramana's video i was the

only one in our group who thought this man's, the american ramana's,

new age ideas had very little to do with ramana maharshi's

teachings. since i am from turkey originally and was brought up in a

more repressed society with conservative values, it's true that i

have a bias against the pushy american types, particularly the

salesman types and the american ramana sounded like a typical bossy

american salesman trying to push new age concepts as advaita. it

didn't seem to bother the rest that much but then again i'm about as

unenlightened as they come. hur

 

RamanaMaharshi, Miles Wright

<ramana.bhakta@v...> wrote:

> om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

>

> http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2002-10-02/news.html

>

> Dear Hur,

>

> In the mail today, I received the above web address, which

apparently links

> to an interesting article about AHAM.

>

> Miles.

> =========

> > i wonder what others think in this group about their experience of

> > reading/watching the american ramana.

> >

> > hur

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Hiya Hur,

 

And it's not just American pushy sales men peddling their "takes" on Advaita.

 

The Indian attempts are no different.

 

Your comment "but then again i'm about as unenlightened as they come", is very interesting.

 

How would you know, Hur?:-)

 

I mean, what is the yardstick that you would use to come to the conclusion either way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-

Hur Guler

RamanaMaharshi

Friday, August 22, 2003 09:43 AM

[RamanaMaharshi] Re: Message About AHAM's New Web Site! / american ramana

thanks miles for posting this interesting article. as much as i try to keep an

open mind, i suppose i tend to have a skeptical mind. i remember when i was

watching the american ramana's video i was the only one in our group who

thought this man's, the american ramana's, new age ideas had very little to do

with ramana maharshi's teachings. since i am from turkey originally and was

brought up in a more repressed society with conservative values, it's true that

i have a bias against the pushy american types, particularly the salesman types

and the american ramana sounded like a typical bossy american salesman trying

to push new age concepts as advaita. it didn't seem to bother the rest that

much but then again i'm about as unenlightened as they come. hur

[Guest guest]

om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

 

Dear Hur,

 

> thanks miles for posting this interesting article. as much as i try

> to keep an open mind, i suppose i tend to have a skeptical mind.

 

Wonderful. Scepticism is a fertile soil for vicara. When ahamkara arises

doubts about this or that are never far behind. Hold that troublemaker, the

mindstuff will disappear.

 

> i remember when i was watching the american ramana's video i was the

> only one in our group who thought this man's, the american ramana's,

> new age ideas had very little to do with ramana maharshi's

> teachings. since i am from turkey originally and was brought up in a

> more repressed society with conservative values, it's true that i

> have a bias against the pushy american types, particularly the

> salesman types and the american ramana sounded like a typical bossy

> american salesman trying to push new age concepts as advaita.

 

If his style does not satisfy...why not take to the other Ramana, that one

to whom this Group is dedicated. His Teaching is immediate and conclusive.

When one, 'by chance', falls into His lap there is no longer any room for

doubt. When He grabs you, stop struggling, surrender, then you will,

assuredly, escape. He is certainly not pushy...but His pull is, in the end,

irresistible.

 

> it didn't seem to bother the rest that much but then again i'm about as

> unenlightened as they come. hur

 

Indeed. 'I am not enlightened' ... ' 'He is enlightened' ... 'I am

enlightened'. This is the jiva's conceit. Enlightenment, as the concern of

the ego, is probably best left alone. Instead, I would just do vicara.

 

Regards,

Miles