RE: [ramanuja] Born Genius Sri parasara Bhattar

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Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:

 

Dear bhAgavatas,

 

--- sumithra varadarajan <sumivaradan

wrote:

> Though there are only 11 paasurams, “kangulam

> pagalum” padhigam for lord ranganatha in the whole

> thiruvAimozhi it is a tradition of our acharyas to

> say that all the 1000 paasurams belongs only to

> ranganatha. The same has been repeated by Sri

> parasara bhattar here. He says that the whole

> thiruvaimozhi was submitted to the divine feet of

> Periya perumal and then it was distributed to

> various other divya desa emperumans.

 

 

Parasara Bhattar's attachment to Srirangam is

legendary. This has led to some interesting

indicents. adiyEn will recall one interaction

of Sri Bhattar with Sri Anandazhvar.

 

Anandazhvar too had great attachment to a divya-

desam, but it was Thiruvengadam. At one time, a

bhAgavata who had been with Anandazhvar for a while

in Thirumalai went to Srirangam. While attending

Bhattar's upanyasam there, he happened to sneeze

and said "thiruvengadam" immediately. In those

days, Srivaishnavas would say the name of some

divyadesam after sneezing. Upon hearing this

Bhattar remarked "karuvilE thiruvilAdhAr Ar?",

recalling Thondaradippodi Azhvar's Thirumalai

pasuram 11:

 

oruvillAl Ongu munnIradaiththu ulagankaL uyya

seruvilE arakkar kOnais seRRa namsEvaganAr

maruviya periya kOyil mathiL thiruvarangamennA

karuvilE thiruvilAdhIr! kAlaththaik kazhikkinRIrE

 

Here Azhvar says that only those who do not have

the grace of the Lord when they were in their

mother's womb would fail to say thiruvarangam

at least once. But, for Bhattar this applies not

just once but at every opportunity. Needless to

say, he was disappointed at not hearing the

bhAgavata say thiruvarangam after sneezing.

 

When Anandazhvar heard this, he sent a message

to Bhattar stating "veruvAdhAL vAy veruvi

vEngadamE enRALO, thiruvarangam enRALO?",

refering to Thirumangai Azhvar's Periya

Thirumozhi (5.5) on Srirangam, which starts as

"veruvAthAL vAyveruvi vEngadamE vEngadamE

enginRALAl". Here, the mother of the girl

laments about the state of her daughter who is

tortured by her separation from the Lord. She

says that her daughter who is separated from

Him cries out vEngadamE vEngadamE, even though

the pasuram is dedicated to Srirangam.

 

How interesting are anubhavams of our acharyas!

 

Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

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adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

 

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sRi:

Srimathe Ramanujaya namha

Adiyen wish to add few points to Smt Sumithra's Mail, it was an excellent

anecdote to show the connection between SriPaRasara Bhattar and SriRangam.

When he got in to the situation to clarify about the Peria Thirumozhi

pAsuram , where our Thirumangai Alwar brings in Thiruvengadamudayan in the

SriRangam pAsuram, we can see the great "Meda Vilasam " of Our Bhattar, he

replied , look at the pAsuram, its the ThayAr Pasuram. Here as Sumitra

mentioned , the whole pathigam was the Thayar pAsuram , so it sonly the

thAyar of Tirumgai Alwar who said Thiruvengadam in Thiruvarangam pAsuram and

not our beloved Alwar !!!

 

you can see the attachment of our Bhattar with SriRangam and his Meda

Vilasam in his reply..

 

This is only an eg, and if you see all the conversations between our

Nanjeeyar and Bhattar, it was so great , like Nanjeeyar will ask normal

doubts as neechan like Adiyen can think about and our Bhattar will give

fitting reply which will clear all doubts and with a stich of humour also..

 

 

Best Regards

Gunaseelan V

 

 

 

TCA Venkatesan [mkavidasan]

Thursday, 19 June 2003 2:31 AM

ramanuja; oppiliappan

Re: [ramanuja] Born Genius Sri parasara bhattar

 

 

Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:

 

Dear bhAgavatas,

 

--- sumithra varadarajan <sumivaradan

wrote:

> Though there are only 11 paasurams, “kangulam

> pagalum” padhigam for lord ranganatha in the whole

> thiruvAimozhi it is a tradition of our acharyas to

> say that all the 1000 paasurams belongs only to

> ranganatha. The same has been repeated by Sri

> parasara bhattar here. He says that the whole

> thiruvaimozhi was submitted to the divine feet of

> Periya perumal and then it was distributed to

> various other divya desa emperumans.

 

 

Parasara Bhattar's attachment to Srirangam is

legendary. This has led to some interesting

indicents. adiyEn will recall one interaction

of Sri Bhattar with Sri Anandazhvar.

 

Anandazhvar too had great attachment to a divya-

desam, but it was Thiruvengadam. At one time, a

bhAgavata who had been with Anandazhvar for a while

in Thirumalai went to Srirangam. While attending

Bhattar's upanyasam there, he happened to sneeze

and said "thiruvengadam" immediately. In those

days, Srivaishnavas would say the name of some

divyadesam after sneezing. Upon hearing this

Bhattar remarked "karuvilE thiruvilAdhAr Ar?",

recalling Thondaradippodi Azhvar's Thirumalai

pasuram 11:

 

oruvillAl Ongu munnIradaiththu ulagankaL uyya

seruvilE arakkar kOnais seRRa namsEvaganAr

maruviya periya kOyil mathiL thiruvarangamennA

karuvilE thiruvilAdhIr! kAlaththaik kazhikkinRIrE

 

Here Azhvar says that only those who do not have

the grace of the Lord when they were in their

mother's womb would fail to say thiruvarangam

at least once. But, for Bhattar this applies not

just once but at every opportunity. Needless to

say, he was disappointed at not hearing the

bhAgavata say thiruvarangam after sneezing.

 

When Anandazhvar heard this, he sent a message

to Bhattar stating "veruvAdhAL vAy veruvi

vEngadamE enRALO, thiruvarangam enRALO?",

refering to Thirumangai Azhvar's Periya

Thirumozhi (5.5) on Srirangam, which starts as

"veruvAthAL vAyveruvi vEngadamE vEngadamE

enginRALAl". Here, the mother of the girl

laments about the state of her daughter who is

tortured by her separation from the Lord. She

says that her daughter who is separated from

Him cries out vEngadamE vEngadamE, even though

the pasuram is dedicated to Srirangam.

 

How interesting are anubhavams of our acharyas!

 

Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

=====

Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam

 

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

 

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Sri:

Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:

 

--- Gunaseelan V <gunav wrote:

> ... and if you see all the

> conversations between our

> Nanjeeyar and Bhattar, it was so great , like

> Nanjeeyar will ask normal

> doubts as neechan like Adiyen can think about and

> our Bhattar will give

> fitting reply which will clear all doubts and with a

> stich of humour also..

 

This is indeed true. The interaction of Bhattar

with Nanjeeyar gave raise to many outstanding

explanations and ideas. Nanjeeyar was a great

disciple - one who was not afraid to question

his acharya on many issues. And Bhattar was

adept at answering them. One can probably

record a book on all their interactions and it

would make great reading and provide grand

insights into our sampradhayam.

 

One such episode came to adiyEn's mind and I

will share it with the bhAgavatas.

 

Once Bhattar was doing an upanyasam on Periya

Thirumozhi and was talking about the pasurams

on Pullambhuthankudi. Specifically, he was

talking about pasuram 5.1.2 which ends as

 

paLLachcheRuvilkayalugaLap pazhanakkazhaniyathanuLpOy

puLLuppiLLaikkiraithEdum puLLampoothankudithAnE

 

Here Azhvar is describing the natural beuaty of

this divyadesam. There is a ditch next to the

fields which is filled with water and many fish

are moving about. Here a bird is watching and

searching for a fish for its young. Such is the

natural abundance of this place. At this point

Nanjeeyar asked Bhattar "ugaLAdhiruppa thEduvAnEn?"

That is, if there are so many fish moving about,

why would the bird have to search? Bhattar replied:

"Since the place was rich in water and food, all

the fish had grown to a large size - so large that

they were barely able to move about. So, the bird

should not have to search for food - if it was

looking for food for itself. But as it was looking

for food for its young (piLLaikku irai), it wanted

some small fish to feed them. That's why it was

searching".

 

It is said by our acharyas there was none to ask

questions like Nanjeeyar and that there was none

to answer them like Bhattar.

 

Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

 

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Swami:

 

In respect of this pasuram, I was told that the "Pullu" is a metphor

for a Guru who will give to his deciple only so much as he can

swallow and digest.

Dasan

D Bala sundaram

-

TCA Venkatesan

ramanuja ; oppiliappan

Friday, June 20, 2003 11:48 PM

RE: [ramanuja] Born Genius Sri parasara Bhattar

Sri:Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama:--- Gunaseelan V

<gunav (AT) future (DOT) futsoft.com> wrote:> ... and if you see all the>

conversations between our> Nanjeeyar and Bhattar, it was so great ,

like> Nanjeeyar will ask normal> doubts as neechan like Adiyen can

think about and> our Bhattar will give> fitting reply which will

clear all doubts and with a> stich of humour also..This is indeed

true. The interaction of Bhattarwith Nanjeeyar gave raise to many

outstandingexplanations and ideas. Nanjeeyar was a greatdisciple -

one who was not afraid to questionhis acharya on many issues. And

Bhattar wasadept at answering them. One can probably record a book on

all their interactions and itwould make great reading and provide

grandinsights into our sampradhayam.One such episode came to adiyEn's

mind and Iwill share it with the bhAgavatas.Once Bhattar was doing an

upanyasam on PeriyaThirumozhi and was talking about the pasuramson

Pullambhuthankudi. Specifically, he wastalking about pasuram 5.1.2

which ends aspaLLachcheRuvilkayalugaLap

pazhanakkazhaniyathanuLpOypuLLuppiLLaikkiraithEdum

puLLampoothankudithAnEHere Azhvar is describing the natural beuaty

ofthis divyadesam. There is a ditch next to thefields which is filled

with water and many fishare moving about. Here a bird is watching

andsearching for a fish for its young. Such is thenatural abundance

of this place. At this pointNanjeeyar asked Bhattar "ugaLAdhiruppa

thEduvAnEn?"That is, if there are so many fish moving about,why would

the bird have to search? Bhattar replied:"Since the place was rich in

water and food, all the fish had grown to a large size - so large

thatthey were barely able to move about. So, the birdshould not have

to search for food - if it waslooking for food for itself. But as it

was lookingfor food for its young (piLLaikku irai), it wantedsome

small fish to feed them. That's why it wassearching".It is said by

our acharyas there was none to askquestions like Nanjeeyar and that

there was noneto answer them like Bhattar.Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar

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