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Dear Sri Sudarshan,

 

I have heard many Srivaishnava acharyas and scholars

refer to Sri Ramanuja as Swami Ramanujar. In fact,

I have even heard them say that the single title

"Swami" refers only to Ramanujar, whereas for others

we have to add their names - such as Swami Desikar

or Swami Manavala Mamunigal and so on. This is

similar to "Azhvar" refering to Nammazhvar only,

"kOyil" refering to Srirangam only, and so on.

 

In fact, at Sriperumbudur to date everyone refers

to Ramanujar as just "Swami".

 

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

--- "M.K.Sudarshan" <sampathkumar_2000

wrote:

> ...

> Just as Sage VyAsa was addressed as "bhagavAn" and

> not "swAmi", so

> too do we SriVaishnavites, who regard Sri

> RamanujAchArya as our

> foremost 'guru', we do not ever refer to him as

> "Swami Ramanuja".

> More often we refer to him as "bhagavath ramanuja";

> or else, we refer

> to him with some other hallowed honorific such as

> "uDayavar" or

> "bhAshyakArar", never at all "swAmi".

> ...

 

=====

Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam

 

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sri Sudarshan,

 

I have heard many Srivaishnava acharyas and scholars

refer to Sri Ramanuja as Swami Ramanujar. In fact,

I have even heard them say that the single title

"Swami" refers only to Ramanujar, whereas for others

we have to add their names - such as Swami Desikar

or Swami Manavala Mamunigal and so on. This is

similar to "Azhvar" refering to Nammazhvar only,

"kOyil" refering to Srirangam only, and so on.

 

In fact, at Sriperumbudur to date everyone refers

to Ramanujar as just "Swami".

 

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

--- "M.K.Sudarshan" <sampathkumar_2000

wrote:

> ...

> Just as Sage VyAsa was addressed as "bhagavAn" and

> not "swAmi", so

> too do we SriVaishnavites, who regard Sri

> RamanujAchArya as our

> foremost 'guru', we do not ever refer to him as

> "Swami Ramanuja".

> More often we refer to him as "bhagavath ramanuja";

> or else, we refer

> to him with some other hallowed honorific such as

> "uDayavar" or

> "bhAshyakArar", never at all "swAmi".

> ...

 

=====

Azhvar Emperumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam

 

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

 

 

 

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, madhurakavi dAsan

<mkavidasan> wrote:

> I have heard many Srivaishnava acharyas and scholars

> refer to Sri Ramanuja as Swami Ramanujar. In fact,

> I have even heard them say that the single title

> "Swami" refers only to Ramanujar, whereas for others

> we have to add their names - such as Swami Desikar

> or Swami Manavala Mamunigal and so on. This is

> similar to "Azhvar" refering to Nammazhvar only,

> "kOyil" refering to Srirangam only, and so on.

>

> In fact, at Sriperumbudur to date everyone refers

> to Ramanujar as just "Swami".

>

> adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

 

 

Dear sri madhura kavi dasan,

Thank you for this piece of information. I was really not aware of

this before. I have always heard only the popular -- "bhagavath

ramanuja". Sri Perumbudur being Ramanuja's birth-place might have of

course its own local customs.

 

Regards,

dASan,

Sudarshan

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Jai Ramanuja,

It is rightly said that SRI RAMANUJA is addressed as SWAMI.Swa

means the belonging & swami means the owner.This gets translated

as UDAYAVAR in Tamil meaning one who owns the UDAIMAI.Hence SRI

RAMANUJA is addressed popularly as UDAYAVAR by srivaishnavites.

dasan

 

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 Sudarshan M.K. wrote :

>, madhurakavi dAsan

><mkavidasan> wrote:

> > I have heard many Srivaishnava acharyas and scholars

> > refer to Sri Ramanuja as Swami Ramanujar. In fact,

> > I have even heard them say that the single title

> > "Swami" refers only to Ramanujar, whereas for others

> > we have to add their names - such as Swami Desikar

> > or Swami Manavala Mamunigal and so on. This is

> > similar to "Azhvar" refering to Nammazhvar only,

> > "kOyil" refering to Srirangam only, and so on.

> >

> > In fact, at Sriperumbudur to date everyone refers

> > to Ramanujar as just "Swami".

> >

> > adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan

>

>

>Dear sri madhura kavi dasan,

>Thank you for this piece of information. I was really not aware

>of

>this before. I have always heard only the popular -- "bhagavath

>ramanuja". Sri Perumbudur being Ramanuja's birth-place might have

>of

>course its own local customs.

>

>Regards,

>dASan,

>Sudarshan

>

>

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