Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/oct20/n1.asp B’lore scientist throws new light on the Mahabharata >From Kalyan Ray DH News Service NEW DELHI, Oct 19 Analysing the planetary references depicted in the Mahabharata, a Bangalore-based scientist claimed to have zeroed in on the period during which the two clans, Kauravas and Pandavas, gained political power and fought each other in the battle of Kurukshetra. Based on historical and archeological evidence, the epic had been dated earlier between 600 to 3000 BC though the dates have never been proved conclusively. “The eclipses and planetary observations of the Mahabharata should belong to 1493 BC to 1443 BC of Indian history. The war should have taken place in 1478 BC with an error bond of one year,” Dr R N Iyengar from the department of civil engineering at Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore, said. The analysis was made by calculating planet and star positions described in the epic in modern astronomical terms using three software including a German-made one used widely by USA National Aeronautics and Space Administration for recreating historical events. The exercise undertaken by Dr Iyengar, a civil engineer of international repute who is a Sanskrit scholar as well, had resulted in 12 possible dates for the war 2744 and 505 BC. “Out of the 12 solutions for the war, the period 1478 BC fits the bill almost perfectly,” he told Deccan Herald over telephone. However, conflicting tests and mismatches between astronomical, archaeological, historical and social evidence always pose a big problem in resolving the Mahabharata period beyond any doubt. “I will not touch Mahabharata since its heavily contaminated,” pointed out Dr M N Vahia at Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) in Mumbai who had earlier calculated the Shivaji era using more or less similar techniques. However, Dr Iyengar went through six versions of the epic - four in Sanskrit and one each in Kannada and English, to pick up the planetary references. “In a text as large as the Mahabharata its no wonder that chronological ordering of the events and observations might have got mixed up due to transmission errors. But everything falls into place as in a puzzle and an almost unique epoch emerges from celestial observations when 1478 BC is taken as the year of the war,” he wrote, reporting the findings in Indian Journal of History of Science published by the Indian National Science Academy. Three solar eclipses depicted in Sabha Parvan, Bhisma Parvan and Mausala Parvan and description of a lunar succeeding or preceding at least two solar eclipses within a month, helped Dr Iyengar narrow down his search. “It’s the planetary position what matters. From a span of 2500 years, the window was fixed on a time span of 10-15 years,” he said, adding that dates mentioned in the epic also helped in fine tuning the period. A major limitation of earlier studies was that they did not show how to reconcile inconsistencies such as Sani (Saturn) being said to be with star Rohini (Aldebaran) as well as being near star Visakha (Alpha-Librae) in Bhisman Parvan, he pointed out claiming that the new study bridges the gaps. [uNQUOTE] ______________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger http://mail.messenger..co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Science is one thing, truth is another thing altogether. The age of the Pyramids, for example, is placed by Egyptologists, to be within 5000 B.C., but the truth is that it belongs to a different epoch altogether (previous yuga) - some Egyptologists have put the age of the pyramids at 10,500 B.C. based on water erosion patterns. If the Stone Age is placed around 5000 B.C., how can you set the date for such an advanced structure as the pyramids as being within about 5000 B.C.? The present Kali Yuga is about 5000-6000 years old (the learned in this group, please verify). The truth is that the Mahabharatha took place in Dwapara Yuga (the previous epoch), when Sri Krishna Avatar took place. It is said that the previous Dwapara Yuga ended after massive flooding on this planet (the Great Ones had prophesied that the previous Dwarapa Yuga would be ended by Water, as it was, and have said that the present Kali Yuga would be ended by Fire). Strangely, science has verified that the Ice Age ended (when the whole earth was flooded after the Polar ice caps melted suddenly) about 10,000 B.C - 10,500 B.C. (please note that the statement made here is: Science has verified the truth of the Great Ones, not the other way around - the touchstone is truth, and science is the "gold" being tested out - if it turns out to be fool's gold, science should be discarded). Science has also verified that the Stone Age is around 5000 B.C. - about the age of the present Kali Yuga. Here are adiYen's humble suggestions: 1. To the Egyptologists who believe in the water erosion theory: you are correct about the time at which the water erosion took place (10,500 B.C. or so), but look for planetary positions BEFORE the 12,500 B.C. (or thereabouts) date you have set for the Pyramids - you may have to go back tens of thousands of years, does not matter - that is the true age of the Pyramids. 2. To the "Iyengar" scientist from India who has inferred that the Mahabharatha took place about 1478 B.C.: Learn about Sri Vaishnavism first - what it states with regard to the various epochs and age of the Yugas, Sri Vishnu's Dashavatars, etc.; using that as the touchstone, test your scientific theories; determine when the same planetary positioning mentioned in the Mahabharatha could have taken place - you may have to go back tens of thousands of years; also remember that some novas or supernovas could have taken place from the ancient past to the present - this could explain some of the anomalies. If your theories turn out to be fool's gold, say goodbye to them. 3. To the rest of us: In the "scientific" age of today, we have a tendency to use science as the touchstone for Great Truths - instead, let use the Great Truths as the touchstone for science. adiYen, Ashok Krishnamurthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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