Guest guest Posted November 23, 2003 Report Share Posted November 23, 2003 SrI: Dear Swamy Desika BhakthAs: Today , we will study the two Paasurams dealing with the criticism of the ChArvAka Matham . 165) Condemnation of the ChaarvAka /UlOhAyatha Matham *********************************************** KaNdathu mey yenil kANum maRayil aRivu kaNDOm kaNDathu alAthathu ilathu yenil ithil kuRRam kaNDilam kaNDathu pOl maRai kAttuvathum kaNDathu otthathanAl uMDathu kEtkkum ulOhAyathar yenRu meeruvathE The Doctrine of ChArvakam : Prathyaksham alone is PramANam says ChArvaakAs.Only those recognized by direct perception (Prathyaksham) are true according to them. Rest are false . Therefore , every thing described by Vedam that is not seeable by the direct perception such as Dharmam, adharmam , Iswaran , the Other world are all false according to CharvAkAs. These CharvAkAs equate arTa kAmams (POruL , Inbham) as equal to PurushArTam ( Veedu). Swamy Desikan rejects the view that Prathyaksham alone is PramANam.He goes on to establish why anumAnam and Sabdham(Vedam) are additional necessary PramANams. Swamy Desikan quotes Swamy ParAsara Bhattar's SrI RangarAja Sthava SlOkam 2.5 to refute CharvAkA's claim that Vedam is not PramANam . Here Bhattar argues that CharvAkAs hear the Vedam through their ears , which is Prathyaksham since it is a prathyaksha indhriyam and develop knowledge about the Meanings of the Vedam (arTa Jn~Anam ) from there. Bhattar asks how one can categorize Vedam as Meaningless , when the knowledge about meaning is obtained through one's ears . The chief reason for Prathyaksham is the assistance of an Indhriyam . When the ear as an Indhriyam hears it and develops arTa Jn~Anam , Bhattar asks how can you reject sabdham(Vedam ) as false . Some CharvAkAs include anumAnam and aagamam in Prathyaksham . Swamy Desikan rejects that view and points out that Prathyaksham and anumAnam are separate PramANams .Swamy Desikan's arguments are deep and incisive to reject ChArvaka Matham as unacceptable as elaborated in the next paasuram. 166) The inconsistency between the ChArvakA's doctrines and actions ******************************************************* KaNDathanAl kANathathu anumikkinranar KaNDu Orutthan uraitthatanai kavaruhinRAr uNDu pasi kedum yenRE uNarnthu uNkinrAr onRAlE onRait-tAmm sAdhikkinRAr paNDu mulai uNDu athanaal mulai uNkinrAr pArkkinrAr pala allAt-taMMai maRRum kaNDu mathi ketta nilai kANahillAr kANathathu ilathu yenRu kalnguvArE (Meaning ): ChArvakAs infer the presence of Agni from the directly seen smoke. Another believes in the vishayam that is directly seen and experienced by the ear and accepts it . >From this , it is clear that the charvAkAs accept anumAnam and sabdham. They consume food with the knowledge that hunger will be relieved , when one is hungry. They do not know however that hunger will be removed by eating , before eating through the power of prathyaksham . Further , as Vaadhis , they point why they agree with the PrathivAdhis on the reasons and state that the unseen vasthu exits. By this act, they have agreed to the validity of anumAnam and Sabdham. The CharvAkAs , who only accept the body that is seeable by prathyaksham and reject the unseeable aathmA as nonexistent can come up with the only answer for the new born baby drinking mother's milk because of poorva janma vaasanai (memories of previous births). By this they have to agree that there is an eternal aathmA other than the SarIram . Further , the CharvAkAs who equate the body with the aathmA see the aathmA , which has no hand or leg or eye in the same way as the limbs of the SarIram ( hand, leg, eye of that SarIram ) that they can see by direct perception (Prathyaksham). Thus the CharvAkAs know that their doctrines are inconsistent with their actions and lose their minds and yet wont give up their faulty doctrines. Daasan , Oppiliappan KOil Varadachari Sadagopan SrImate SrI Lakshminrusimha PaadhukA sEvaka SrI Aadhi VaNN SaThakOpa SrIman NaarAyaNa YathIndhra MahA DesikAya Nama: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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