Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama: One day Bhattar's eldest daughter came to Nanjeeyar's mutt and asked him if he had any dry twigs for fire. Nanjeeyar looked around and said that he did not have any. Later he found that he did have some twigs in another area in the mutt. Immediately he gathered them and took them to Bhattar's home. Seeing this, Bhattar asked Nanjeeyar "Did you have to come yourself? Could you not have sent this with someone else?" Nanjeeyar replied "Since I sinned by first saying that I did not have these with me, I should get rid of that sin myself". Azhvar Emberumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam A Day in the Life of Our Acharyas: http://www.acharya.org/articles/aditlooa/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Dear Sri TCA svAmin, This is a very interesting anecdote. I wonder if there is more to it than meets the eye. I would take it that the real moral of this story is: One may gather sin ("pApam") through agency of another e.g. the son sharing in the responsibilty of a father's misdeeds, the husband's share of a wife's tresspass etc. One however cannot delegate atoning for one's sins. The "prasyaschitta" for one's sins ought to be done by oneself and not through agency or proxy. A father cannot merrily gather sins by the dozen and then hope his son will somehow atone for it all some day. Responsibility for one's actions can sometimes redound to another but remedy and expatiation is always one's very own burden. This is what adiyane can draw from Bhattar's response in the narrative. Would you say I am right or way off target? Thanks and regards, dAsan, Sudarshan Oppiliappan, "vtca" <vtca> wrote: > Sri: > Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama: > > One day Bhattar's eldest daughter came to Nanjeeyar's > mutt and asked him if he had any dry twigs for fire. > Nanjeeyar looked around and said that he did not have > any. Later he found that he did have some twigs in > another area in the mutt. Immediately he gathered > them and took them to Bhattar's home. > > Seeing this, Bhattar asked Nanjeeyar "Did you have to > come yourself? Could you not have sent this with > someone else?" > > Nanjeeyar replied "Since I sinned by first saying that > I did not have these with me, I should get rid of that > sin myself". > > Azhvar Emberumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadigale Sharanam > > A Day in the Life of Our Acharyas: > http://www.acharya.org/articles/aditlooa/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Dear Sri Sudarshan Swamin, adiyEn agrees with you Swamin. I think what Nanjeeyar was pointing out was - the person who sinned must atone himself and he must atone where he committed the sin. There can be no proxy in seeking pardon nor can one go to someone else, not even the Lord (as seen in the Ambarisha episode), for the pardon. dAsan --- mksudarshan2002 <mksudarshan2002 wrote: > > Dear Sri TCA svAmin, > > This is a very interesting anecdote. I wonder if there is > more to it > than meets the eye. > > I would take it that the real moral of this story is: > > One may gather sin ("pApam") through agency of > another e.g. the > son sharing in the responsibilty of a father's misdeeds, > the > husband's share of a wife's tresspass etc. > > One however cannot delegate atoning for one's sins. > The "prasyaschitta" for one's sins ought to be done by > oneself and > not through agency or proxy. A father cannot merrily > gather sins by > the dozen and then hope his son will somehow atone for it > all some > day. > > Responsibility for one's actions can sometimes redound > to another > but remedy and expatiation is always one's very own > burden. > > This is what adiyane can draw from Bhattar's response in > the > narrative. Would you say I am right or way off target? > > Thanks and regards, > > dAsan, > Sudarshan > > Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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