EPILOGUE: "There is Salvation in numbers"- The Theme of"satsangh" in TiruppAvai

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Dear Sri Sudarshan madabushi swAmi, It is indeed true that the

satsangh gathering is one of the highlights of our whole philosphy.

Sri nam-AzhwAr finally gives this punch in thiru-voi-mozhi "andhamil

pErinbathu adiyarOdu irundhamai'.

In the second ten vis-a-vis AchArya hrdhayam I quote the following

words from AchArya hrdhyam 220-from Posting 125:

 

VI. ennum gnAna palamAna oLik koNdA mOksham thEadi VII. vAda...."

Here, AzhwAr's is supposed to be yearning for the experience in the

great abode. What is the experience is further detailed in the

following pAsuram:

VI. kaLippum kavarvum aRRu piRappup piNi mUppiRappaRRu-oLikkOnda

sOdhiyamAi -adiyArgaL kuzhAngaLai vudan kUduvadhu enRu kolO.."2-3-10

 

The yearning is for" adiyArgaL kuzhAngaLai vudan kUduvadhu enRu kolO"

-- Oh! When will I be in the midst of the devotees of the Lord.

 

VI. kaLippum kavarvum aRRu piRappup piNi mUppiRappaRRu-oLikkOnda

sOdhiyamAi -adiyArgaL kuzhAngaLai vudan kUduvadhu enRu kolO.."2-3-10.

 

 

In the same second ten, AzhwAr did not get to meet the Lord.

He viewed natural happenings also due to being separated from the

Lord-like the waning and waxing moon etc. thiru-voi-mozhi 2-1.

However, here, AzhwAr did not get the togetherness with the

devotees.The impact was more pornounced. He became griefsticken and

started talking in feminine- peN pEachu- extreme ecstasy-prEamthil

peN pEachu.

VI. kaLippum kavarvum aRRu piRappup piNi mUppiRappaRRu-oLikkOnda

sOdhiyamAi -adiyArgaL kuzhAngaLai vudan kUduvadhu enRu kolO.."2-3-10

 

 

 

Does that not highlight the greatness of satsangh?

 

We enjoyed the postings on satsangh.

 

 

dhAsan

vanamamalai padmanabhan

 

 

-

sudarshan madabushi

tiruvenkatam

Cc: ; oppiliappan

Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:18 PM

EPILOGUE: "There is Salvation in numbers"- The

Theme of"satsangh" in TiruppAvai

Dear friends,Salvation -- the state of absolute communion("sAyujya")

with God in his Abode of SriVaikuntam --is not narrow individual

experience but anall-expansive, all-encompassing,

all-overwhelmingcollective one. It cannot be denoted at all

withreference to any sense of feeling such as "I", "Me" or"Myself".

It is more "We", "Ours" and "All of Us". Itis never easy to realize

this truth since it involvesmaking a giant, quantum leap from the

feeling ofindividualistic "I" to the universal "WE". It

involvesmoving from the 'first-person-singular' to

the'first-person-plural'… And according to Vedanta, it isonly

when Man has learnt to make that movement does hefind God… It

is 'satsangh' alone that can really enable Man tomake the vast leap of

the spirit. It is only'satsangh' that can help us move away from

the'first-person-singular' towards 'first-person-plural'…The

Bliss of God becomes available to the human soulwhen it takes up

residence there eternally. But eventhere the Bliss of God cannot be

enjoyed in theselfish sense of the individual… The principle

of"koodi-irunthu-kUlirndhu…" operates inexorably inGod's Heaven

as it operates here in Man's world. The TiruppAvai in 30 beautiful

stanzas reveals thisimportant truth to us as no other comparable text

inVedantic scripture or literature has ever done or willever do.

*************Regards,dAsan,SudarshanKuwait, 'mArgazhi', 2004

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Dear Sri Padmanabhan svAmi,

 

Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate feedback from

knowledgeable readers like you.

 

In the "CONCLUDING" part of the series, if you have read it

carefully, NammAzhwAr's verse which you quoted has already been

covered by me.

 

Thanks and regards,

dAsan,

Sudarshan

 

 

Oppiliappan, nsp <aazhwar@v...> wrote:

> Dear Sri Sudarshan madabushi swAmi, It is indeed true that the

satsangh gathering is one of the highlights of our whole philosphy.

> Sri nam-AzhwAr finally gives this punch in thiru-voi-

mozhi "andhamil pErinbathu adiyarOdu irundhamai'.

> In the second ten vis-a-vis AchArya hrdhayam I quote the following

words from AchArya hrdhyam 220-from Posting 125:

>

> VI. ennum gnAna palamAna oLik koNdA mOksham thEadi VII. vAda...."

Here, AzhwAr's is supposed to be yearning for the experience in the

great abode. What is the experience is further detailed in the

following pAsuram:

> VI. kaLippum kavarvum aRRu piRappup piNi mUppiRappaRRu-oLikkOnda

sOdhiyamAi -adiyArgaL kuzhAngaLai vudan kUduvadhu enRu kolO.."2-3-10

>

> The yearning is for" adiyArgaL kuzhAngaLai vudan kUduvadhu enRu

kolO" -- Oh! When will I be in the midst of the devotees of the Lord.

>

> VI. kaLippum kavarvum aRRu piRappup piNi mUppiRappaRRu-oLikkOnda

sOdhiyamAi -adiyArgaL kuzhAngaLai vudan kUduvadhu enRu kolO.."2-3-10.

>

>

> In the same second ten, AzhwAr did not get to meet the Lord.

> He viewed natural happenings also due to being separated from the

Lord-like the waning and waxing moon etc. thiru-voi-mozhi 2-1.

> However, here, AzhwAr did not get the togetherness with the

devotees.The impact was more pornounced. He became griefsticken and

started talking in feminine- peN pEachu- extreme ecstasy-prEamthil

peN pEachu.

> VI. kaLippum kavarvum aRRu piRappup piNi mUppiRappaRRu-oLikkOnda

sOdhiyamAi -adiyArgaL kuzhAngaLai vudan kUduvadhu enRu kolO.."2-3-10

>

>

>

> Does that not highlight the greatness of satsangh?

>

> We enjoyed the postings on satsangh.

>

>

> dhAsan

> vanamamalai padmanabhan

>

>

> -

> sudarshan madabushi

> tiruvenkatam

> Cc: ; oppiliappan

> Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:18 PM

> EPILOGUE: "There is Salvation in numbers"-

The Theme of"satsangh" in TiruppAvai

>

>

> Dear friends,

>

> Salvation -- the state of absolute communion

> ("sAyujya") with God in his Abode of SriVaikuntam --

> is not narrow individual experience but an

> all-expansive, all-encompassing, all-overwhelming

> collective one. It cannot be denoted at all with

> reference to any sense of feeling such as "I", "Me" or

> "Myself". It is more "We", "Ours" and "All of Us". It

> is never easy to realize this truth since it involves

> making a giant, quantum leap from the feeling of

> individualistic "I" to the universal "WE". It involves

> moving from the 'first-person-singular' to the

> 'first-person-plural'. And according to Vedanta, it is

> only when Man has learnt to make that movement does he

> find God.

>

> It is 'satsangh' alone that can really enable Man to

> make the vast leap of the spirit. It is only

> 'satsangh' that can help us move away from the

> 'first-person-singular' towards 'first-person-plural'.

>

> The Bliss of God becomes available to the human soul

> when it takes up residence there eternally. But even

> there the Bliss of God cannot be enjoyed in the

> selfish sense of the individual. The principle of

> "koodi-irunthu-kUlirndhu." operates inexorably in

> God's Heaven as it operates here in Man's world.

>

> The TiruppAvai in 30 beautiful stanzas reveals this

> important truth to us as no other comparable text in

> Vedantic scripture or literature has ever done or will

> ever do.

>

> *************

> Regards,

>

> dAsan,

> Sudarshan

>

> Kuwait, 'mArgazhi', 2004 (CE)

>

>

>

>

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