Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Sri: SrimatE Gopaladesika MahadesikAya Namaha, Translation by U.Ve. Dr. V.N. Vedanta Desikan Swamin: 849. AsAdhya kEkayasuthAvaradhAnamUlam kAlam pradOShamanirIkshya ramAsahAyam manjupraNAdharahithA maNipAdharakshE moUnavratham kimapi nUnamavarthayasthvam Oh Manipaaduka! The promise that Dasharatha had made to Kaikeyi drove Rama and Sita to the forest. This period of separation You did rightly regard as tainted with great stigma. (It was pradosha period- Trayodasi coexisting with dusk.) You, therefore, chose to be silent, without emitting Your usual melodious sound. (Azhvar's works are to be recited in proximate presence of the Lord). Namo Narayana, SriMuralidhara Dasan Special Notes by V.Sadagopan (V.S): SlOkam 849 1) UtthamUr Swamy's anubhavam: On seeing the Paadhukais , Swamy Desikan is reminded of the MahA pradhOsham day , when one has to observe the vow of silence. MahA pradhOsham falls at dusk on ThrayOdasi days. Swamy Desikan says: " Oh PaadhukE! By giving the boon to KaikEyi, You have reached the status of MahA pradhOsham (most inauspicious day) , when one can not worship the Lord and His consort, since one has to observe a strict vow of silence and immobility. You lose Your sweet sound during those fourteen years and observed the vow of silence as a rsult of Your sorrow in not being able to se and serve Your Lord ". 2) SrImath Andavan's anubhavam: Oh PaadhukE ! Lord Raamachandra granted BharathA's request and You left as a result with Bharathan to AyOdhyA to rule in the name of Your Lord . You left Raamachnadra and for 14 years stayed without sanchAram on the throne of Raghu Kulam. It was like MahA PradhOsham time for You since You stayed at one place without generating Naadham from Your transport of Your Lord. At MahA pradhOsham evening , One has to maintain silence and not engage in visit to Bhagavath SannidhAnam. 3) Oh MaNi PaadhukE ! The time You had to stay away from Your Lord and His DEvi due to the boon granted by King DasaraTA to queen KaikEyi was like an extended period of PradhOsham for You (KEkayasuthA varadhAna Moolam anireekshya RamAsahAyam PradhOsham). At that difficult PradhOsham time , You observed Mouna Vratham without generating Your normal delightful Naadham associated with Your sanchArams ( PradhOsha Kaalam aasAdhya manju-praNAtha-rahithA kimapi mouna vratham avarthaya ),,,(V.S). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Oppiliappan, > > 849. AsAdhya kEkayasuthAvaradhAnamUlam > kAlam pradOShamanirIkshya ramAsahAyam > manjupraNAdharahithA maNipAdharakshE > moUnavratham kimapi nUnamavarthayasthvam It was like MahA PradhOsham time for You since You stayed at > one place without generating Naadham from Your transport of Your Lord. > At MahA pradhOsham evening , One has to maintain silence and not > engage in visit to Bhagavath SannidhAnam. > At that > difficult PradhOsham time , You observed Mouna Vratham *********** Dear friends, This is a very interesting verse of the Paduka sahasramam. Adiyane has heard it being said that at SriVilliputtur, Swami Desikan having arrived one evening at 'pradosham/trayodasai', was maintaining mouna vratam and resting in his lodgings. He did not go to the temple of Vadapatra sAyi nor to the sanctum of ANdal. At that time, the 'purappAdu' of Sri AndAl came in procession via the lane where his lodgings were. On seeing the procession of "nAcchiAr", Desikan's spontaneously broke out into song which today has come to us as the 'gOdA-stuthi'! Our Swami Desikan that day seems to have broken both the 'mouna- vrata' and the 'pradOsha' stricture against 'bhagavath sannidhAnam'!! But who cares? We got the "goda-stuthi" in the bargain! Any comments? Rgds, dAsan, Sudarshan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 > > At MahA pradhOsham evening , One has to maintain > silence and not > > engage in visit to Bhagavath SannidhAnam. > > Silence I understand . This is interesting , why would one suggest not to engage in Bhagavath SannidhAnam. Just curious to learn , please elaborate. Thanks and Regards, -Gomata note: Won't want to miss to see GOD any moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Oppiliappan, Gomata Varanasi <eng_joy> wrote: > > At MahA pradhOsham evening , One has to maintain > > silence and not > > > engage in visit to Bhagavath SannidhAnam. > Silence I understand . > This is interesting , why would one suggest > not to engage in Bhagavath SannidhAnam. > Just curious to learn , please elaborate. > Thanks and Regards, > -Gomata > note: Won't want to miss to see GOD any moment. ---------------- Dear friend, It's a good question that you pose. I can only venture to guess an answer. It is by no means an authoritative one (which other knowledgeable members in this group can perhaps provide). The 'sAstras' enjoin observance of rites & rituals at certain prescribed times. The 'mouna vrata' (vow of silence) is to be observed at certain times like 'trayodasa'. At 'mahapradosham' also non-engagement in 'bhagavath sannidhAna' is perhaps laid down by 'sAstra'. This prescription against 'bhagavath sannidhAna' perhaps relates only to 'archA' form of Godhead, such as iconic worship and temples etc. The time here is meant to be spent instead in silent meditation -- i.e. we are expected to devote ourselves to worship of the 'antaryAmi' form of Godhead (the God within ourselves)... 'mouna vrata' must be accompanied by meditation (dhyAna) and this is best served when we are in solitude, far from the crowds, whether in the market place or in places of public worship like temples etc... This appears to me to be the most plausible explanation for the 'sAstrA-ic' injunction against 'bhagavath sannidhAna'. I am of course subject to correction by any other authentic 'pramAna' to the contrary. Regards, dAsan, Sudarshan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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