Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Dear BhakthAs: I almost forgot this posting based on an outstanding UpanyAsam by HH SrI PoundarIkapuram Andavan some five years ago.Because of the importance of the subject , I am copying the lists. Thanks to SrI MadhavakkaNNan for the reminder . Once a month , HH SrImad Andavan blesses us with UpanyAsams on SrI RanganAtha Paadhuka Sahasram . The most recent one was a beautiful one dealing with the final three paasurams of Naadha Paddhathi with subtle SaasthrArTams. Please contact SrIman Murali Rangaswamy , if you wish to join in these insightful monthly upanyAsams . V.Sadagopan - "srivaishnavan" <srivaishnavan <> Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:26 AM Re: Perumal in five forms and water > SrI:" > Dear Sri Malolan > > I believe it should be five forms of waters (and not Solid liquid or > gas- as they are NOT forms of waters... :-) I may be wrong)... > > There are comparisons of waters like AvaraNa jalam, the fountai > waters, the well waters, etc.. to the five forms.... > AsmadhAchAryan His Holiness Srimath PaRavaakkOTTai Andavan swami had > mentioned in one of tele upanyasams in 99... about the same and Sri > SatakOpan mama (of New york) beautifully translated the same into > English for everyone'e enjoyment: > > I have reproduced the same (collected from my archives): > > The superiority of ArchA rUpam among Sriman NarAyaNA's > pancha rUpams ( param , VyUham , Vibhavam , antharyAmi > and ArchA ). > > Parama padham , where the Lord is resident as > Parama padha nAthan is surrounded by the aNDams and > the aavaraNam waters (Oceans ) . It is not of easy access > to us residing on earth . We can not travel there even to > get a vessel filled with aavaranam waters .It is too far away . > Hence param and parama padham can not be enjoyed with > our sthUla sarIram . Only as a muktha Jivan possesing > Sookshma sarIram , one can enter and enjoy the anthamil > pErinbham there . > > The second rUpam of the Lord is as Sesha saayee in > the middle of the milky ocean .Here He is presenting > Himself as KshIrAbhdhi nAthan to DevAs and maharishis . > Again , this is beyond our reach with SthUla sarIram . > hence , it is not of much use either for us to see > and enjoy . > > The Third rUpam of the Lord is what has been > celebrated as Raama , KrishNAvathArams . These Vinhava > avathArams were enjoyed by those who were contemproaries . > Today , it is histroy and we can not enjoy Lord KrishNA as > Gopis and AkrUrar did . Thus this rUpam is in the past > like last year's river water , which is no longer available > to quench our thirst ( dried up river bed ). > > The fourth rUpam is antharyAmi savrUpam . It is likened > to OoRRu jalam . You have to dig in the river bed sand and > access the water under . Through the difficult JNa~na Yogam , > one can visualize this svarUpam of the Divya dampathis > seated in our heart cavities . Very few have the power > to succeed in such efforts and thus , this svarUpam is > also not within reach of ordinary folks on this earth . > > The fifth rUpam is the One that Sriman NaarAyaNan > took to make Himself easily available to one and all > and to enjoy Him with our own sthUla sarIram and > Maamsa chakshus . No divya dhrushti as > needed by ArjunA is a must to see the VisvarUpam of > the Lord ." angu vaitthu , inghE piRanthathu " is > the celebration of this ArchAvathAram by Eedu grantham . > > Srimath Andavan went on to describe the five > rUpams celebrated by Vedams in the manthram > in the manner of tamizh maRai : > > ambhasya paarE bhuvanasya madhyE > naakasya prushtE mahathO mahIyAn > sukrENa jyOthIgumshi samanupravishta: > PrajApathisccharathi garbhE antha : > -- TaittirIya AaraNyakam : III.13.3 > > In ParAvathAram , the Lord is in Sri Vaikuntam > as para VaasudEvan enjoying the Saama ghAnam . > Therefore it is described as Paattu kEtkumidam . > It is not accessible to us ; we can not hear this > music with our Maamsa karnams . > > In VyUham , Lord rests on the serpent bed > enjoying His yOga NidhrA .He is rudely awakned > by all the terror stricken devAs , who seek > His interventiion and complain about the terrors > inflicted on them by the asurAs . He has to come to > help after listeing to their fear-laden prayers > ( muRaidal iDam ). This far off place is also > inaccessible to us .We can not get there to appeal > to Him to intervene and help us from our afflictions. > Therefore Vyuha Moorthy is off limits for us. > > Vibahva avathArams are known as kuthittha iDam . > Lord NarasimhA jumped out of the pillar and > performed His avathAra Kaaryam and can no longer > be seen in His original vibhava form . > > AntharyAmi svarUpam is known as OottumiDam . > It is a svarUpam exclusively seen by those , > who have succeeded in their Jn~ana Yoga saadhanais. > It is again out of reach for us . > > ArchA SvarUpam is known as VaLaittha iDam . > Here , the Lord ahs become very accessible to us > and rests at Srirangam suggestign that He would not > leave us until all of our Paapams are removed . > He patiently waits for us to get SadAchArya Sambhandham > and come to Him . AzhwArs and AchAryAs enjoyed the ArchA > mUrthys at the various divya desams and stated unequivocally > that it is their prefeered choice among the five prakAra > rUpams of Sriman NaarAyaNan . > > It is interesting to note that para VaasudEvan > gives us sEvai on the PraNava VimAnam > at Srirangam , VyUha Moorthy is seen > as Archai at Srirangam , Anbil , Thirukkudanthai > et al , Vibhava Moorthys are present in > the ArchA form at ThiruevuLL ( Sri Veera Raaghavan ), > Dwarakai ( KrishNan ), AhObilam ( Narasimhan ) et al. > > AzhwArs and AchAryAl's assertion of their > preference for the archA form of the Lord > over all the other Four forms are abundant . > Srimath Andavan quoted a few of them . > I have added a few moreto illustrate his point : > > icchuvai taviRa yaan pOy Indira lokamALum > achuvai peRinum vENDEn Arangamaa naharuLAnE > -- ThirumAlai of ThindaradipoDi : 2nd Paasuram > > aNdavANanarangan , van pEy mulai > uNDa vAyanRanunmatthan kANminE > -- KulasEkharar : PerumAL Thirumozhi:3.4 > > sempavaLa vaayan ThiruvEnkatamennum > EmperumAn Ponn malai mEl yEthEnum aavEnE > --- Kulasekharar : PerumAL Thirumozhi : 4.10 > > AanDAi unaik KaaNpathOr aruLenaakaruLithiyEl > vENDEn manai vAzhkhayai ViNNagar MEyavanE > -- Thirumangai's Paasuram on ThiruviNNagarAn > Manai means here Sri Vaikuntam . > > athraiva sukhamAsva > -- Sri RanganAthA's instruction to AchArya RaamAnujA > > nirantharam nirvisatha : tvadhIyam > asprushta chinthA padham aapirupyam > satyam sapE Vaarana sailanAtha > vaikunta vaasEpi na mEabhilAsha : > --Swaami Desikan , Sri VaradharAja- > PanchAsath: 49th slOkam > > Here Swami Desikan that he has no desire > to reside in Sri Vaikuntam since he has the bhAgyam > to enjoy the unparalleled beauty of Sri > VaradarAjan right here in His archA form on top of > Hasthigiri .He swears that he prefers > Kaanchi Vaasam to have the Sevai of Lord VaradarAjA > over residence in Sri VaikuntanAthan . > > That is the glory of ArchA rUpam for us > as revealed by our AzhwArs and AchAryAs . > > Lord Ramachandra in His vibhavAvathAram > performed AarAdhanam to Sri RanganAthA > in ArchA form at AyOddhi . That is the > highest form of tribute that one can > come across regarding the celebration of > ArchA rUpam as the most enjoyable by > us on earth among all the five prAkarams > of Sriman NaaraayaNan . > > AzhwAr AchAryan ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam > Daasan , Oppiliappan Koil VaradAchAri SadagOpan > > > , Malolan Cadambi <mcadambi> > wrote: > > Sri > > > > I recently read somewhere that a Sri Vaishnava acharya (?) opined > > that the five states of perumAl (para, vyuha, archa, antaryamI etc) > > can be compared to states of water (solid, liquid, gaseous etc). > > > > I would like more information in detailed about this. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Regards, > > > > Malolan > > > > > > > > > > > > _________ > > BT Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and > save £80 http://bt..co.uk > > > > Srimate Sri Laksminrisimha Divya Paduka Sevaka > Srivan Satakopa Sri Narayana Yatindra Mahadesikaya Nama: > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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