Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 SrI: SrImathE Gopaladesika mahadesikaya namah: Dearest Srivaishnavas, AzhwAr had mentioned about Paramapadha nAthan and then KsheerAbhi nAThan- Now he enlists the various vibhava athAramas – any of these forms can be meditated upon for enjoyment. That would keep the mind focused as well. paththinOdu paththumaayo rEzhinOdo ronpathaay, paththinaalthi saikkaNinRa naadupeRRa nanmaiyaay, paththinaaya thORRamOdo raaRRalmikka vaathipaal, pattharaama varkkalaathu muththimuRRa laakumE? (79) With ten plus ten avathArams, and in addition seven plus nine avathArams, and hence, the two times seven – fourteen lokas are blessed with the divine presence of the Lord and people residing therein and having seen Him or heard about the glories about Him and His pastimes, were blessed with enormous and greatest devotion on His Lotus feet. Because of their devotion alone these avathArams took place and the most merciful Lord- Bhaktha vathasalan- the unparalleled Lord- the epitome of Patience and of Grandness; Other than those who are devoted to such Greatest Supreme Lord, can anyone else be blessed to even contemplate on mOkshAnubahavm (leave alone attainment.. even think on such lines or having semblance of thoughts on mOksham…- is possible only among His bhakthAs.. devotees.). paththinOdu paththumaayo rEzhinOdo ronpathaay, paththinaalthi saikkaNinRa naadupeRRa nanmaiyaay, paththinaaya thORRamOdo raaRRalmikka vaathipaal, pattharaama varkkalaathu muththimuRRa laakumE? (79) There is a different school of opinion on this verse that the first line enlists the ten directions, ten dhikpAlars (keepers); Saptha swaras, srunAram, etc.. nine rasas (bhAvams) etc.. are mentioned. Since the Lord manifests everywhere, these are also manifested by Him and He is the essence of all of these 36… - is their views and commentary. Thus, for their goodness, He is there in them and …. The lines are to be inferred as usual for third and fourth lines. With the avathArikA, Sriman Narayanan- KsheerAbdhi sayanan is the One who has out of His own dayA and will, on His own accord, for the sake of devotees, have taken various avathArams and oh bhakthAs! You do not have to only think of KsheerAbhdi sayanan Sriman Narayanan! Even contemplating on any of these 36 avathArams is great and fine- is our AvathArikA (preface to this verse). In view of this context, this view is more appropriate for this verse. These avathArams are meant only for those saadhus who were desirous of enjoying Him and seeing Him and only for the sake of those devotees, He took various avathArams. What are these 36 avathArams? Even one of the first few verses AzhwAr had mentioned same 36 avathArams- moonRu muppatthARinOdu- three plus 36. (4th verse- I think). This is also mentioned by Rishis as follows: padmanAbhAdhikA sarvE vaibavIyasthaThaiva Cha | shadthrimsath (36) sankhyA: sankhyAthA: prAThAnyaiva gaNESwara: || also as Shadthrimsath bhEdha bhinnAsthu padmanAbha paadhaya: Here prAThAnyaiva is mentioned; meaning: these are main ones and there are other avathAras as well is to be understood. Hence there is also 39 avathArams and these 36 are main ones- out of which there are popular common ten avathArams… That’s why ten plus ten is broken up by AzhwAr. Thus the bhakthi- devotion referred to here is the samaanya bhakti which is devotion to His lotus feet and is not to be inferred as bhakti yoga – as mentioned in earlier verses as well. Thirumazhisai Piraan ThiruvaDigaLE SaraNam Regards Namo narayana dAsan Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger. http://messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Swami U.Ve Madhavakkannn: Your vyakyanams,expecially on the last ten verses are fabulous. I was always wondering about the variouos numbers used in pasurams, sometimes repeating the same numbers, twice, thrice etc. I am glad to know the significance of the numbers now. I read the following vyakyanam twice but still I could not get the names of 36 avatharams. Most of us know the 10 principal avatharams. Could you please let us know the names of 36 avatharams? Also just to remind you about the sloka and connected parralel pasurams on "bakthi like a flow of oil". I know how much it takes for your kaimkaryam on writing the meanings of wonderful azwar pasurams. Again our gratitude to your goodself. Adiyaen Nerur S. Rajagopalan --- Madhavakkannan V <srivaishnavan wrote: > SrI: > SrImathE Gopaladesika mahadesikaya namah: > > Dearest Srivaishnavas, > > AzhwAr had mentioned about Paramapadha nAthan and > then > KsheerAbhi nAThan- Now he enlists the various > vibhava > athAramas – any of these forms can be meditated upon > for enjoyment. That would keep the mind focused as > well. > > paththinOdu paththumaayo > rEzhinOdo ronpathaay, > paththinaalthi saikkaNinRa > naadupeRRa nanmaiyaay, > paththinaaya thORRamOdo > raaRRalmikka vaathipaal, > pattharaama varkkalaathu > muththimuRRa laakumE? (79) > > > With ten plus ten avathArams, and in addition seven > plus nine avathArams, and hence, the two times seven > – > fourteen lokas are blessed with the divine presence > of > the Lord and people residing therein and having seen > Him or heard about the glories about Him and His > pastimes, were blessed with enormous and greatest > devotion on His Lotus feet. Because of their > devotion > alone these avathArams took place and the most > merciful Lord- Bhaktha vathasalan- the unparalleled > Lord- the epitome of Patience and of Grandness; > Other > than those who are devoted to such Greatest Supreme > Lord, can anyone else be blessed to even contemplate > on mOkshAnubahavm (leave alone attainment.. even > think > on such lines or having semblance of thoughts on > mOksham…- is possible only among His bhakthAs.. > devotees.). > > paththinOdu paththumaayo > rEzhinOdo ronpathaay, > paththinaalthi saikkaNinRa > naadupeRRa nanmaiyaay, > paththinaaya thORRamOdo > raaRRalmikka vaathipaal, > pattharaama varkkalaathu > muththimuRRa laakumE? (79) > > There is a different school of opinion on this verse > that the first line enlists the ten directions, ten > dhikpAlars (keepers); Saptha swaras, srunAram, etc.. > nine rasas (bhAvams) etc.. are mentioned. Since the > Lord manifests everywhere, these are also manifested > by Him and He is the essence of all of these 36… - > is > their views and commentary. Thus, for their > goodness, > He is there in them and …. The lines are to be > inferred as usual for third and fourth lines. > > With the avathArikA, Sriman Narayanan- KsheerAbdhi > sayanan is the One who has out of His own dayA and > will, on His own accord, for the sake of devotees, > have taken various avathArams and oh bhakthAs! You > do > not have to only think of KsheerAbhdi sayanan Sriman > Narayanan! Even contemplating on any of these 36 > avathArams is great and fine- is our AvathArikA > (preface to this verse). In view of this context, > this > view is more appropriate for this verse. > > These avathArams are meant only for those saadhus > who > were desirous of enjoying Him and seeing Him and > only > for the sake of those devotees, He took various > avathArams. > > What are these 36 avathArams? Even one of the first > few verses AzhwAr had mentioned same 36 avathArams- > moonRu muppatthARinOdu- three plus 36. (4th verse- I > think). This is also mentioned by Rishis as follows: > > > padmanAbhAdhikA sarvE vaibavIyasthaThaiva Cha | > shadthrimsath (36) sankhyA: sankhyAthA: prAThAnyaiva > gaNESwara: || > > also as Shadthrimsath bhEdha bhinnAsthu padmanAbha > paadhaya: > > Here prAThAnyaiva is mentioned; meaning: these are > main ones and there are other avathAras as well is > to > be understood. Hence there is also 39 avathArams and > these 36 are main ones- out of which there are > popular > common ten avathArams… That’s why ten plus ten is > broken up by AzhwAr. > > Thus the bhakthi- devotion referred to here is the > samaanya bhakti which is devotion to His lotus feet > and is not to be inferred as bhakti yoga – as > mentioned in earlier verses as well. > > Thirumazhisai Piraan ThiruvaDigaLE SaraNam > Regards > Namo narayana > dAsan > > > > > > > > Friends. Fun. 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