Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Sri Parthasarathi thunai Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha Srimad Vara Vara munayE Namaha Sri vAnAchala mahA munayE Namaha Paasuram-23 (contd) (paththi uzhavan pazham punaththu viththumida veNdum kolO) Earlier we saw the interpretation of Sri Periya vAchan pillai. Sri Appillai gives a slightly different commentary that also matches with other poorvacharyas words. Lets see the same now. Sri Periyavachan pillai: “pazham punangalilE vidhaikka vEndAdhE vudhari mulaikkumA polE….” Sri Appillai : “pravAha roopEna anAdhiyAi pOrugira vilainilaththilE, eppozhudhum vuzhuvadhu vilaivadhu aruppadhAi pOrugira kshetraththilE viththai eda vEndAdhE tannadhaiyE vudhiri mulaikkumApOlE….” Let’s first see the difference between “vudhari mulaiththal” and “vudhiri mulaiththal”. Consider a very fertile land where regular cultivation is done. Earlier we saw that “vudhari mulaiththal” is growing of the crop by just throwing the seeds here and there in the field without any proper care. Then what is “vudhiri mulaiththal”. Just consider a case where the same land has been just left without sowing any seed. Still we find some sprouts here and there that grow by itself. This happens due to the grains that could have scattered during the previous harvest. That is only called as “vudhiri mulaiththal”. Similarly “yAdrichchika sukrudhangal” arises by themselves as per the divine pristine rules of the world’s creator. To substantiate the above interpretation, lets see the sutra of Sri Pillai Lokacharya based on the above paasuram (Srivachanabhooshanam-389) Sri Pillai lokacharya: “pazhayadhAga vuzhuvadhu naduvadhu vilaivadhAippOrum kshetraththilE vudiri mulaiththu pala paryandhamAmApOlE evaidhAN tannadaiyE vilaiyum padiyAiththu paththi uzhavan pazham punaththai srushtiththa kattalai” Sri Manavala mAmunikal’s commentary: “pudhidhAga dharisu thiruththinathandrikkE pazhaiyadhAga vuzhuvadhu naduvadhu vilaivadhAikkoNdu seikAlAi pOrum kshetraththilE karshagan adhukkenna oru krushi paNNAdhirukka, vudhiriyAnadhu mulaiththu vilaindhu talaikattukApOlE” Like the crop that grows due to scattered grains three types of good deeds arises to credit the jeevatmas say our poorvacharyas. They are yAdrichchikam, prAsankikam and Anushangikam. Yadrichchikam: Say a farmer pumps water to irrigate his field in a hot summer and fortunately the same water without his knowledge was used by a few bhagavatas to quench their thirst then emperuman credits the account of the farmer saying, “ennadiyAr vidAi theerththAn” though everything happened without the knowledge of the farmer. Similarly say if a person has a small place outside his house for his pleasures and some bhagavatas stay in that place for sometime for shade then emperuman credits the house owner saying, “ennadiyArkku odunga nizhal koduththAn”. These are yAdruchchika sukruthangal. PrAsankikam: Just talking about various places if a person by chance utters a name of a divya desam, say “thiruvallikeni” then emperuman counts this as a good deed, “en voorai sonnAn” similar is the case when a person utters a bhagavan nama by chance say, “Narayana, parthasarathi” emperuman counts that saying, “en pErai sonnAn” These are prAsankika sukruthangal. Anushangikam: If some thieves are trying to rob a bhagavata and by chance if a cop on duty comes that side and the thieves run out of fear then emperuman credits the cop for this happening saying, ”ennadiyArai knOkkinAi” though the cop actually doesn’t even know what has happened. This is anushangika sukrutham. Thus such things happen by themselves as per the rules of the creator and hence there is no necessity for a jeevan to do anything with sadhana buddhi to obtain any result. What are the jobs done by this farmer, emperuman? Azhvar answers, (vidaiyadarththa paththi uzhavan) All the leelas of emperuman taking various incarnations are his krushi (work) to inculcate bhakthi in all our minds. The puranas say that he won over 7 bulls for the sake of nappinai piratti but the actual motto behind this incident being winning over all the devotees and sowing the seed of bhakthi in their hearts. (viththumida …. Punaththu) If everything is done by the lord then what should the jeeva do? Emperuman himself declares in his bhagavat geetha, “na hi kaschit kshanamapi jAthu tishtatya karma kruth” [3-5] In this world no one stays without doing anything even for a second. Then how come one can stay without doing anything? How will he spend time? (moiththezhundha kAr mEgamanna karumAl thirumEni neervAnam kAttum nigazhindhu) The dark clouds that are seen in the sky during the rainy season filled with waterdroplets are similar to the divine thirumeni colour of emperuman. The colour of the clouds themselves acts as an alternative to develop bhakthi in the minds of jeevathmas. Due to the divine grace of emperuman after we get the taste of bhagavat vishayam and till the time we reach his divine feet we can sustain enjoying the divine beauty and building our interests towards emperuman (bhagavat/bhAgavata kainkaryams) day in and day out. (nigaizhindhu kAttum) The lord gives us the divine darshan that cannot be enjoyed even by the brahma rudras. Summary: In the first interpretation, due to the work of the divine farmer, yAdruchchika sukrudhangal grows. So after the taste of bhagavat vishayam is obtained the way to spend time is trying to increase our interest for the same. The seed here being “sukrutham” In the second interpretation: the seed is the “eeranelviththu” (thiruvai 5-3-4) bhagavat vishaya ruchi. If the dark clouds, reminding the dark colour of emperuman’s thirumeni themselves have the power to inculcate bhakthi in our hearts then is there any necessity for us to do anything? (To Be Continued) Azhvar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharaNam Adiyen ramanuja dAsee Sumithra Varadarajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Madam SumithrA varadharAjan, I remember the thiru-voi-mozhip pAsuram in this regard: PrAsankikam madi-mAngAi idudhal "eNNilum varum, ennini vENduvam" = thiru-voi-mozhi 1-10-2; Even if we think of some numbers incidentally and if it confirms to his thathvam, He emerges.If we are listing out something else in which the word 'Eswaran' comes, He will come. When we are counting something else and in the count if something is related to Him,He shows Himeself, even if we do not mean Him. What else do you want? The next sixth pAsruam again says "oR eNthAnum inRiyEA,vandhiyalumARu,vuNdAnai, vualgEazhum mUvadi koNdAnai kaNdu koNdanai, nEyumEa" thiru voi mozhi " 1-10-6; Does He need counting as a pre-requisite? NO.Why think of Him?.Whenever the need arises He rescues us suo-moto-out of his volition-voluntarily, wihtout our calling Him or thinking of Him. is it so? Is there any example. Yes, when the crisis from prALayam arose, He swallowed us into safety and safeguarded us.He blessed us with His divine feet when He measured the three worlds. Is it not so? Tailpiece: Why thiruvallikkEANI? Why not thirukkuRungudi? even for 'say' purpose. rAmanuja dAsan vanamamalai padmanabhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha Dear Sri Padmanabhan swamy, Thanks for the nice piece of anubhavam. Why Thiruvallikeni? was your question. 1) If it has to be explained with practical reasoning. Thiruvallikeni is a divya desam which is in the heart of a major city. So there is a high probability for even a person who has little knowledge about temple and perumal to utter this name (or atleast in a modified form as triplicane). To be frank in today's sad state even those who call themselves srivaishnavas are not aware of dd's like Thirukurungudi, Thirumoozhikalam etc so where is the chance of other lowkikas to utter such names. 2) Consider adiyen as a normal lady. Then, it is well known to all, that girls (especially after marriage) have a special affection towards their parent's place. They may have it always but they tend to show it more explicitly after marriage. So you may call it a "porandhAththu paRRu" So adiyen wants to hear the name "Thiruvallikeni" from the mouths of one and all and be filled with joy. When it is the case for a girl who has come from some village not well known what to say about adiyen who has come from a DD that too adorned by our dear kaliyan as "oppavarillA mAdhargal vAzhum mAda mAmayilai thiruvallikeni" Is there anything wrong in adiyen being filled with sAtvika ahankaram? 3) Considering all jeevatmas to be stri prAyargal and emperuman alone to be the purushOtaman we are all wedded to emperuman through our acharya. Though all jeevatmas have a similarity in jnanam still we are all different and hence we have different tastes not only in lowkika vishayams but also in choosing our Ishta deivam (Here adiyen is not talking about choosing different devatas but difference in abimanams of different bhagavatas with different divya desa emperumans). Have you ever questioned thondaradipodi azhvar why he sung only about thiruarangam? Kulasekara perumal says, "kondAnai allA ariyA kulamagal pOl" (adiyen was fortunate to chant perumal thirumozhi today, the day in which our dear chakravarthi thirumagan would have undergone jhestAbhishEkam along with his family "bharadhanum tambi chatrukkananum elakkumanOdu maidhiliyum" in thiruvallikeni). So a wife prefers to hear the praise of her husband and her husband's place even though she knows that there are other places that exists equal to or even greater than that place. You may question if only Thiruvallikeni is emperuman's divya stAnam? "porul allAdha ennai porulAki adimai konda" edam aduvE andrO? Emperuman blessed adiyen with a birth over there and made adiyen enjoy all his divya darisanams and of all things though our acharyan's place is vanamamalai it was parthasarathi's wish to celebrate adiyen's samasrayanam only under his divine feet in thiruvallikeni. To add more after a few years of separation parthasarathi has decided finally to get adiyongal back to thiruvallikeni. We pray to all bhagavatas to bless us with all your mangalasasanams for us to shift our residence to thiruvallikeni for ever. So how much ever times adiyen utters the name "Thiruvallikeni" it remains "appodaikku appOdu ArA amudhu" in adiyen's mouth. For whatever thiruvallikeni and parthasarathi has given adiyen "talaiallAl kaimArilEnE" Note: Take the case of a prime minister. In his office he will be amidst tight security even his wife has to get permission from the security persons to meet him but while at home he may be close and affectionate with his family members without any pressure taking atmost care of them with love. Which will the wife prefer her husband with so many people always around him and he being always busy or he peacefully enjoying with her and the other family members? According to adiyen thiruvallikeni is like the home of emperuman where he enjoys along with all his family members (his bhakthas) and other divya desams are his offices (he is a big business magnet with number of offices to capture maximum profit-jeevatmas) All mistakes due to adiyen's ignorance may please be pardoned. Alwar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharaNam Adiyen ramanuja dAsee Sumithra Varadarajan - Padmanabhan oppiliappan ; ramanuja ; vanamamalai ; Sumithra Varadarajan Friday, August 13, 2004 7:46 AM Re: nAnmugan thiruvandhAdhi-31 Madam SumithrA varadharAjan, I remember the thiru-voi-mozhip pAsuram in this regard: PrAsankikam madi-mAngAi idudhal "eNNilum varum, ennini vENduvam" = thiru-voi-mozhi 1-10-2; Even if we think of some numbers incidentally and if it confirms to his thathvam, He emerges.If we are listing out something else in which the word 'Eswaran' comes, He will come. When we are counting something else and in the count if something is related to Him,He shows Himeself, even if we do not mean Him. What else do you want? The next sixth pAsruam again says "oR eNthAnum inRiyEA,vandhiyalumARu,vuNdAnai, vualgEazhum mUvadi koNdAnai kaNdu koNdanai, nEyumEa" thiru voi mozhi " 1-10-6; Does He need counting as a pre-requisite? NO.Why think of Him?.Whenever the need arises He rescues us suo-moto-out of his volition-voluntarily, wihtout our calling Him or thinking of Him. is it so? Is there any example. Yes, when the crisis from prALayam arose, He swallowed us into safety and safeguarded us.He blessed us with His divine feet when He measured the three worlds. Is it not so? Tailpiece: Why thiruvallikkEANI? Why not thirukkuRungudi? even for 'say' purpose. rAmanuja dAsan vanamamalai padmanabhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Dear Srimathi Varadarajan and Sri Padmanabhan : This is an interesting exchange . My vote for ThiruvallikENi is based on one word : " GeethAchAryan ". Geethyai aruLiya PaarthasAraTE Krupai kooRnthu yemmai paarttharuL ! V.Sadagopan - Sumithra Varadarajan Padmanabhan ; oppiliappan ; ramanuja ; vanamamalai Friday, August 13, 2004 10:55 AM Re: nAnmugan thiruvandhAdhi-31 Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha Dear Sri Padmanabhan swamy, Thanks for the nice piece of anubhavam. Why Thiruvallikeni? was your question. 1) If it has to be explained with practical reasoning. Thiruvallikeni is a divya desam which is in the heart of a major city. So there is a high probability for even a person who has little knowledge about temple and perumal to utter this name (or atleast in a modified form as triplicane). To be frank in today's sad state even those who call themselves srivaishnavas are not aware of dd's like Thirukurungudi, Thirumoozhikalam etc so where is the chance of other lowkikas to utter such names. 2) Consider adiyen as a normal lady. Then, it is well known to all, that girls (especially after marriage) have a special affection towards their parent's place. They may have it always but they tend to show it more explicitly after marriage. So you may call it a "porandhAththu paRRu" So adiyen wants to hear the name "Thiruvallikeni" from the mouths of one and all and be filled with joy. When it is the case for a girl who has come from some village not well known what to say about adiyen who has come from a DD that too adorned by our dear kaliyan as "oppavarillA mAdhargal vAzhum mAda mAmayilai thiruvallikeni" Is there anything wrong in adiyen being filled with sAtvika ahankaram? 3) Considering all jeevatmas to be stri prAyargal and emperuman alone to be the purushOtaman we are all wedded to emperuman through our acharya. Though all jeevatmas have a similarity in jnanam still we are all different and hence we have different tastes not only in lowkika vishayams but also in choosing our Ishta deivam (Here adiyen is not talking about choosing different devatas but difference in abimanams of different bhagavatas with different divya desa emperumans). Have you ever questioned thondaradipodi azhvar why he sung only about thiruarangam? Kulasekara perumal says, "kondAnai allA ariyA kulamagal pOl" (adiyen was fortunate to chant perumal thirumozhi today, the day in which our dear chakravarthi thirumagan would have undergone jhestAbhishEkam along with his family "bharadhanum tambi chatrukkananum elakkumanOdu maidhiliyum" in thiruvallikeni). So a wife prefers to hear the praise of her husband and her husband's place even though she knows that there are other places that exists equal to or even greater than that place. You may question if only Thiruvallikeni is emperuman's divya stAnam? "porul allAdha ennai porulAki adimai konda" edam aduvE andrO? Emperuman blessed adiyen with a birth over there and made adiyen enjoy all his divya darisanams and of all things though our acharyan's place is vanamamalai it was parthasarathi's wish to celebrate adiyen's samasrayanam only under his divine feet in thiruvallikeni. To add more after a few years of separation parthasarathi has decided finally to get adiyongal back to thiruvallikeni. We pray to all bhagavatas to bless us with all your mangalasasanams for us to shift our residence to thiruvallikeni for ever. So how much ever times adiyen utters the name "Thiruvallikeni" it remains "appodaikku appOdu ArA amudhu" in adiyen's mouth. For whatever thiruvallikeni and parthasarathi has given adiyen "talaiallAl kaimArilEnE" Note: Take the case of a prime minister. In his office he will be amidst tight security even his wife has to get permission from the security persons to meet him but while at home he may be close and affectionate with his family members without any pressure taking atmost care of them with love. Which will the wife prefer her husband with so many people always around him and he being always busy or he peacefully enjoying with her and the other family members? According to adiyen thiruvallikeni is like the home of emperuman where he enjoys along with all his family members (his bhakthas) and other divya desams are his offices (he is a big business magnet with number of offices to capture maximum profit-jeevatmas) All mistakes due to adiyen's ignorance may please be pardoned. Alwar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharaNam Adiyen ramanuja dAsee Sumithra Varadarajan - Padmanabhan oppiliappan ; ramanuja ; vanamamalai ; Sumithra Varadarajan Friday, August 13, 2004 7:46 AM Re: nAnmugan thiruvandhAdhi-31 Madam SumithrA varadharAjan, I remember the thiru-voi-mozhip pAsuram in this regard: PrAsankikam madi-mAngAi idudhal "eNNilum varum, ennini vENduvam" = thiru-voi-mozhi 1-10-2; Even if we think of some numbers incidentally and if it confirms to his thathvam, He emerges.If we are listing out something else in which the word 'Eswaran' comes, He will come. When we are counting something else and in the count if something is related to Him,He shows Himeself, even if we do not mean Him. What else do you want? The next sixth pAsruam again says "oR eNthAnum inRiyEA,vandhiyalumARu,vuNdAnai, vualgEazhum mUvadi koNdAnai kaNdu koNdanai, nEyumEa" thiru voi mozhi " 1-10-6; Does He need counting as a pre-requisite? NO.Why think of Him?.Whenever the need arises He rescues us suo-moto-out of his volition-voluntarily, wihtout our calling Him or thinking of Him. is it so? Is there any example. Yes, when the crisis from prALayam arose, He swallowed us into safety and safeguarded us.He blessed us with His divine feet when He measured the three worlds. Is it not so? Tailpiece: Why thiruvallikkEANI? Why not thirukkuRungudi? even for 'say' purpose. rAmanuja dAsan vanamamalai padmanabhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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