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Dear MK Swamin

Thanks for your praising words. Adiyaen is not going to param-padam (Moksham ) ,

if adiyaen keep your praising words in my miind.

Please dont under-estimate yourself. Everyone in this world are very much nobler

than me. If i consider myself, i am the evilest of evilest being in this world , without

any single praise worthy word other and left with only Anartham words.(compared

to our almighty where kalyan gunaas are infinite)

"Pu-kal on-rum- illa-Adiyaen - Un-Adikeel Amar-nthu pu-ku-n-thae-nae !!!" 6.10.10

(This word alone Covers 95% of (3) Rahasyatrayam - Pillai-loka-chariaar )

Regarding commentary on 8.10.X , adiyaen feels that there is no better Orator

than Mr. Sadagopan swamin. He can be revered as a ( Latest ) Nam-pillai Swamin

of 21st century !!!. so adiyaen do not want to spoil the nectar of 8.10.X of

Kaarimaara-piraan by giving half-baked vyaakyaanam.

Adiyaen is still stunned at His vyaakyaanam for Periazhwar thirumonzhi -

Vanna Maadangal sool & sool visum pani mugil thooriam mozhakina (10.9.X)

so splendid....... and has to be archived for our future generations.

However i can flip & conclude that it is pulled off from one single word in Bhagavad Gita.

Sangha-Varjithaha - Sangha -means Pure & varjithaha means association.

The slogam goes like this

"Mat-Karma-krit-mat-paramo-mat-bhak-taha Sangha-varjithha

Nir-Vai-rinaa sarva-boothesu Maa-methi-cha-paanda-va"

Our Beloved Kaari-maara-piraan Zoomed this word to explain in

10 paasurams.(8.10.X)

I leave the Vyaakyaanam for 8.10.X to Mr. Sadagopan Swamin.

Adiyaen is still a student learning with a folded hands before Sadagopan

swamin - New York , Mrs. Jayashree Saranathan swamin(ee) of Mysore,

Vaana-maa-malai padmanaabhan swamin, Mrs.Sumithra + Varadarajan (& Co)

of Mugappair, Madras , Florida Nappinnai swamin(ee) , and the Giant(Legend),

TCA Swamin of Chicago. and we all are bonded more tightly without borders !!.

I am coming to India(perhaps my last visit to India) within two-weeks after a long

interval. I am visiting Thiru-kurugur and my plan is to take a bucket full of sand in

the temple and drop it over the top of my head -> Ai- Jolly !!!

Perhaps one of my dear wish is to die (or breathe my last minute) at the lap of

poorest of poorest shri-vaishnavaa hearing Peri-Aazhwar -Thirumozhi or Thiruvaaimozhi

for which i can give away every little thing ....i own..... to that Shrivaishnavaa.

This is a sure(100%) Moksham erasing all karmaas(irumai vinai kadiyum) and

thereby slicing (or say cutting down) the Samsaaric Tree. Bhagavad

Shri Ramanuja , Paraasara bhattar is blessed to have that bhaagyam. ( Please

try to zoom the above said instance in your mind) (e.g Alambaa Veru-taaa.... ,

Than-naer-Aayiram... , Mech-oothu Sangam idathaan...)

 

Daasan.MK krishnaswamy <krishnaswamy (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Shriman Sundararajan,

 

Many thanks for your appreciation which, I know, I do not deserve at

all. I consider myself as one of the "siru manisar." If I quoted

Tennyson, it is due to my ignorance of the great treasure in our own

sacred literature.

 

It is Shriman Sadagopan who has wide knowledge of the scriptures and

is spreading awareness of sat-vishayam among the devotees, that

belongs to the "siru maa manisar" group of enlightened mahaans.

 

What better way to serve the Lord than by subordinating one's own ego

to the "SiRu-Maa-Manisar" who walk this earth very close to us but

whom one's inflated ego does not even notice? May I suggest that you

write on this subject expanding on the meaning of Tiruvaimozhi

Ch.8-10 ?

 

Dasan

Krishnaswamy

 

-

Balaji Sundarrajan

Oppiliappan ; sgopan (AT) computer (DOT) net

Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:41 AM

Substance of thiruvaaimozhi !!

Dear MKSwamy , Sadagopan Swamin

 

The Email i just read (below) is Nothing........ but....

 

Substance of Thiruvaaimozhi !!

 

daasan

 

Both Sadagopan, MK Swamy => These words are written to take (both of

)you® as an example

 

"Siru-ma-manisaarai Yennai Aandaar Ingae Thiriyavae !"

 

- MK krishnaswamy

tiruvenkatam

Sunday, October 10, 2004 3:02 AM

[t'venkatam] The Life Superior

Dear Devotees,

 

Please permit me to share some thoughts which arose in my mind when I

was re-reading Tennyson's Morte D'Arthur. The following is a famous

quote from that poem:

 

For what are men better than sheep or goatsThat nourish a blind life

within the brain,If, knowing God, they lift not hands of prayerBoth

for themselves and those who call them friend?For so the whole round

earth is every wayBound by gold chains about the feet of God.

Tennyson in "Morte D'Arthur"

We human beings have so much in common with animals -- such as living

in groups, caring for our off-spring, building or choosing a place

for residence (nest, lair, house etc), fighting for domain over a

group or area or a mate, eating, drinking, playing, reproducing,

health, illness etc. There is one major difference: in addition to a

pre-programmed brain and the limited intelligence of the animals, we

have a mind that has almost unlimited intelligence, is capable of

conceptual, abstract thinking and communicating our thoughts in

words, We are also endowed with the free will to choose -- to use

this mind-power either to indulge in the needs and pleasures of the

senses like the animals or to fulfil the minimum, essential needs of

the body and to seek the higher Self which resides within us in the

deep recesses of the heart.

It is in this context that the Seers of yore --who saw with a sense of

superior perception of the mind -- have prescribed for our guidance

the fundamental way of living our lives. And that is to seek the four

purusharthaas: Dharma, Arthaa, Kama and Moksha. It may be specially

noted that the inner two values Artha and Kama are sub-sets of Dharma

and Moksha: they are circumscribed by the two brackets Dharma and

Moksha .

Artha meaning resources (wealth) is to be soughr through action within

the rules of Dharma. Kama or desire/needs should be such that it is

directed towards non-attachment and freedom from bondage (moksha).

Leading one's life in this manner, we become true seekers. Constantly

working within the field of Dharma with the mind's eye firmly fixed on

the only true goal of life, namely, moksha, we shall receive His Grace

and be delivered from bondage. Every other way that we choose with our

"free" will results in the waste of this precious gift of the human

mind.

As Lord Yama told Nachiketas in Kathopanishad, we have two choices: We

can choose preyas or pleasure and live the ordinary life like 'sheep

and goats'; or choose shreyas, the highest good and become one with

the Gods.

 

Thus stated, the choice in favour of the latter is so clear. Yet, over

centuries, humanity seems to be going the other way.

May be, it is time for Shri Bhagawan to come as an Avatara Purusha and save us.

 

Dasan,

Krishnaswamy M.K

 

 

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SrI:

 

Daer Sri Sundararajan :

Many thanks again for your kind words . Although You mean well

in your compliments regarding my postings , it will be

impossible for me to believe that I will ever understand or

communicate effectively the divine vyAkhyAnams of the PoorvaachAryAs

we all revere . Only our present day AchAryaas can do it since they have

the paripoorNa anugraham of the dhivya Dampathis . In this

forum , we will have sathsangam , ask questions , clear our doubts ,

develop respect and closeness and share what little we know in

the spirit of traveling a little closer to the great anubhavams of

our PoorvAchAryAs inspired VykhYaanams . That itself will enrich

each of our days on this earth before we attain our AchAryan's Thiruvadi

and with the power of their tapas and our MahA ViswAsam in

the Prapatthi that we have done gain the anthamil pErinbham

celebrated by our AzhwArs and AchAryAs .

 

Daasan , V.Sadagopan

 

-

Balaji Sundarrajan

Oppiliappan

Monday, October 18, 2004 5:13 PM

Dear MK Swamy -> Substance of thiruvaaimozhi !!

Dear MK Swamin

Thanks for your praising words. Adiyaen is not going to param-padam (Moksham ) ,

if adiyaen keep your praising words in my miind.

Please dont under-estimate yourself. Everyone in this world are very much nobler

than me. If i consider myself, i am the evilest of evilest being in this world , without

any single praise worthy word other and left with only Anartham words.(compared

to our almighty where kalyan gunaas are infinite)

"Pu-kal on-rum- illa-Adiyaen - Un-Adikeel Amar-nthu pu-ku-n-thae-nae !!!" 6.10.10

(This word alone Covers 95% of (3) Rahasyatrayam - Pillai-loka-chariaar )

Regarding commentary on 8.10.X , adiyaen feels that there is no better Orator

than Mr. Sadagopan swamin. He can be revered as a ( Latest ) Nam-pillai Swamin

of 21st century !!!. so adiyaen do not want to spoil the nectar of 8.10.X of

Kaarimaara-piraan by giving half-baked vyaakyaanam.

Adiyaen is still stunned at His vyaakyaanam for Periazhwar thirumonzhi -

Vanna Maadangal sool & sool visum pani mugil thooriam mozhakina (10.9.X)

so splendid....... and has to be archived for our future generations.

However i can flip & conclude that it is pulled off from one single word in Bhagavad Gita.

Sangha-Varjithaha - Sangha -means Pure & varjithaha means association.

The slogam goes like this

"Mat-Karma-krit-mat-paramo-mat-bhak-taha Sangha-varjithha

Nir-Vai-rinaa sarva-boothesu Maa-methi-cha-paanda-va"

Our Beloved Kaari-maara-piraan Zoomed this word to explain in

10 paasurams.(8.10.X)

I leave the Vyaakyaanam for 8.10.X to Mr. Sadagopan Swamin.

Adiyaen is still a student learning with a folded hands before Sadagopan

swamin - New York , Mrs. Jayashree Saranathan swamin(ee) of Mysore,

Vaana-maa-malai padmanaabhan swamin, Mrs.Sumithra + Varadarajan (& Co)

of Mugappair, Madras , Florida Nappinnai swamin(ee) , and the Giant(Legend),

TCA Swamin of Chicago. and we all are bonded more tightly without borders !!.

I am coming to India(perhaps my last visit to India) within two-weeks after a long

interval. I am visiting Thiru-kurugur and my plan is to take a bucket full of sand in

the temple and drop it over the top of my head -> Ai- Jolly !!!

Perhaps one of my dear wish is to die (or breathe my last minute) at the lap of

poorest of poorest shri-vaishnavaa hearing Peri-Aazhwar -Thirumozhi or Thiruvaaimozhi

for which i can give away every little thing ....i own..... to that Shrivaishnavaa.

This is a sure(100%) Moksham erasing all karmaas(irumai vinai kadiyum) and

thereby slicing (or say cutting down) the Samsaaric Tree. Bhagavad

Shri Ramanuja , Paraasara bhattar is blessed to have that bhaagyam. ( Please

try to zoom the above said instance in your mind) (e.g Alambaa Veru-taaa.... ,

Than-naer-Aayiram... , Mech-oothu Sangam idathaan...)

 

Daasan.MK krishnaswamy <krishnaswamy (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Shriman Sundararajan,

 

Many thanks for your appreciation which, I know, I do not deserve at

all. I consider myself as one of the "siru manisar." If I quoted

Tennyson, it is due to my ignorance of the great treasure in our own

sacred literature.

 

It is Shriman Sadagopan who has wide knowledge of the scriptures and

is spreading awareness of sat-vishayam among the devotees, that

belongs to the "siru maa manisar" group of enlightened mahaans.

 

What better way to serve the Lord than by subordinating one's own ego

to the "SiRu-Maa-Manisar" who walk this earth very close to us but

whom one's inflated ego does not even notice? May I suggest that you

write on this subject expanding on the meaning of Tiruvaimozhi

Ch.8-10 ?

 

Dasan

Krishnaswamy

 

-

Balaji Sundarrajan

Oppiliappan ; sgopan (AT) computer (DOT) net

Saturday, October 16, 2004 6:41 AM

Substance of thiruvaaimozhi !!

Dear MKSwamy , Sadagopan Swamin

 

The Email i just read (below) is Nothing........ but....

 

Substance of Thiruvaaimozhi !!

 

daasan

 

Both Sadagopan, MK Swamy => These words are written to take (both of

)you® as an example

 

"Siru-ma-manisaarai Yennai Aandaar Ingae Thiriyavae !"

 

- MK krishnaswamy

tiruvenkatam

Sunday, October 10, 2004 3:02 AM

[t'venkatam] The Life Superior

Dear Devotees,

 

Please permit me to share some thoughts which arose in my mind when I

was re-reading Tennyson's Morte D'Arthur. The following is a famous

quote from that poem:

 

For what are men better than sheep or goatsThat nourish a blind life

within the brain,If, knowing God, they lift not hands of prayerBoth

for themselves and those who call them friend?For so the whole round

earth is every wayBound by gold chains about the feet of God.

Tennyson in "Morte D'Arthur"

We human beings have so much in common with animals -- such as living

in groups, caring for our off-spring, building or choosing a place

for residence (nest, lair, house etc), fighting for domain over a

group or area or a mate, eating, drinking, playing, reproducing,

health, illness etc. There is one major difference: in addition to a

pre-programmed brain and the limited intelligence of the animals, we

have a mind that has almost unlimited intelligence, is capable of

conceptual, abstract thinking and communicating our thoughts in

words, We are also endowed with the free will to choose -- to use

this mind-power either to indulge in the needs and pleasures of the

senses like the animals or to fulfil the minimum, essential needs of

the body and to seek the higher Self which resides within us in the

deep recesses of the heart.

It is in this context that the Seers of yore --who saw with a sense of

superior perception of the mind -- have prescribed for our guidance

the fundamental way of living our lives. And that is to seek the four

purusharthaas: Dharma, Arthaa, Kama and Moksha. It may be specially

noted that the inner two values Artha and Kama are sub-sets of Dharma

and Moksha: they are circumscribed by the two brackets Dharma and

Moksha .

Artha meaning resources (wealth) is to be soughr through action within

the rules of Dharma. Kama or desire/needs should be such that it is

directed towards non-attachment and freedom from bondage (moksha).

Leading one's life in this manner, we become true seekers. Constantly

working within the field of Dharma with the mind's eye firmly fixed on

the only true goal of life, namely, moksha, we shall receive His Grace

and be delivered from bondage. Every other way that we choose with our

"free" will results in the waste of this precious gift of the human

mind.

As Lord Yama told Nachiketas in Kathopanishad, we have two choices: We

can choose preyas or pleasure and live the ordinary life like 'sheep

and goats'; or choose shreyas, the highest good and become one with

the Gods.

 

Thus stated, the choice in favour of the latter is so clear. Yet, over

centuries, humanity seems to be going the other way.

May be, it is time for Shri Bhagawan to come as an Avatara Purusha and save us.

 

Dasan,

Krishnaswamy M.K

 

 

Namo VenkateshAya namah:To Post a message, send it to:

tiruvenkatam (AT) eGroups (DOT) comTo Un, send a blank message to:

tiruvenkatam- (AT) eGroups (DOT) com

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