Ubhaya VedAntha or" Dual Vedic Theology " series : Part I /Temple Priests' Living Quarters kaimkaryam Status

[Guest guest]

Sri:

 

Sri RanganAtha ParabrahmaNE Nama:

 

The Temple raffle for realizing the two living quarters for

the Priests of the Temple is moving slowly . We have sold

650 tickets sofar out of the 2,000 tickets that need to be sold.

 

Meanwhile , two SalakshaNa GhanapAtis ( Reciters of Vedam

in the Ghanam style) have arrived as new priests and

are carrying on their kaimakryams to Lord Ranganatha

at the temple with vigor and intense devotion .

 

Among the three priests that we have , all are experts in Yajur

Vedam recitation and two of the three are GhanapAtis . One of

the three is an expert in reciting the Four thousand sacred

collect ( NaalAyira Dhivya Prabhandham ).

 

We therefore have the truly Ubhaya VedAntha tradition of

offering worship to Lord RanganAtha as has been done for

thousands of years at Srirangam . The Lord hears daily

the Sanskrit Vedam and AzhwArs' moving Tamil Vedams .

The UBHAYA VEDANTHA Tradition is thus scrupulously

maintained at the Lord's house at Pomona , NY .

 

WHAT IS UBHAYA VEDANTHAM ?

************************

Professor Vasudha Narayanan has written extensively about this topic in

her monograph on " Tamil Veda ( 4000 Sacred Collect )" . It is " a theology

and a dual VedAntha tradition based on both Sanskrit and Tamil VedAs " .

Sanskritized Tamil (ManipravALam ) was used by the commentators of the 4000

sacred collect of the Azhwars . The SthOthrAs of VaishNavite

Ubhaya VedAntha AchAryAs like Naatha Muni , AlavanthAr ,

RaamAnuja , KurEsar, Swamy Desikan and others were

inspired by both the Sanskrit VedAs and the Tamil VedAs .

 

ANCIENT RG VEDAM REFERS TO THE 4000 SACRED COLLECT

*******************************************************************************

The 4000 sacred collect ( NaalAyira Dhivya Prabhandham ) is

certainly younger than the ancient VedAs and major Upanishads.

It is fascinating however to find that the oldest of the VedAs ,

Rg Veda , saluting the 4000 sacred collect of Mahaa Jn~Anis (Yogis)

through four of its Mantraas . These mantraas refers expressly to

" ChathvAri SahasrA " ( the Four Thousand Collect ) . The prescient

Rg Veda Manthrams point out that the Four Thousand collect

blessed by great Jn~Anis ( AzhwArs) remove our nescience

(Ajn~Anam) and grow our Jn~Anam and through that process

banish our painful samsAric afflictions. Let us now study each of

these four Rg Veda manthraas (V.30.12--15) .

 

The First Rg Veda Manthram ( V.30.12)

************************************************

Bhadramidham rusmaa AgnE akrangavaam CHATHVAARI dhadhatha: SAHASRAA

ruNamchayasya prayatA magAni pratyagrabheeshma nruthamasya nruNAm

 

( General Meaning): Oh Resplendent , Self-luminous One ( Svayam JyOthi) !

The MahA Jn~Anis ( the AzhwArs steeped in Your guNa anubhavams )

have blessed us with the 4000 Sacred Collect to grow our knowledge of

the three tatthvAs (Sentients , Insentients and Iswaran and the integral

relation between these three tatthvAs) . This knowledge has been

bequeathed to us as our family treasures ( Kula dhanam) by these Mahaa Yogis.

We welcome and recieve them with gratefulness and recognize them as

the special gifts given to us through Your mystic Saints (AzhwArs) in Your role

as the bamisher of our three debts and as our indisputable Master (Sarva Swamy).

 

ChAndhOgya Upanishad ( 5.24.3) refers to the growth of this Jn~Anam

from the clear understanding of the instructions of Ubhaya VedAntham

and states that the beneficiaries have their Paapams and PuNyams burnt

thoroughly just as the swift moving fire burns the dried grass

in the fields . ANdal refers to this in THiruppAvai ( Theeyinil

thoosAhum ).

 

The Second Rg Veda Manthram( V.30.13)

*******************************************************

SupEsam maava srujantyastham gavaam sahasrai: rusmAsO AgnE

theevrA indhramamandhu: suthAsOakthOrvyushtou paritakmyAyA:

 

(General Meaning): Oh PurushOtthamaa! The great Jn~Anis ( AzhwArs)

have given us as gift this great palace made up of the sacred collect of

Four Thousand . We are blessed. These sacred collect of their Bhagavath

GuNa anubhavams gladdens the Lord , who resides in the temple of our

heart lotuses ( as antharyAmi Brahmam) and at the same time drives away

the darkness of the night of SamsAram and brings in the bright dawn of

Jn~Anam about the three cardinal tatthvams.

 

The Third Rg Veda Manthram (V.30.14)

**************************************************

Oucchathsaa rAthree paritakmyA yaagum ruNamchayE rAjani rusmAnaam

athyO na vaajee raghurajyamAnO BhabhruscchathvAryasanathsahasrA

 

( General Meaning): Oh Self-effulgent Lord ! When You the deliverer from

all debts are invoked ( through the Sacred collect of four thousand eulogies

of the 12 AzhwArs ) , the frightful night of SamsAram transforms itself into

the bright dawn of Jn~Anam . As the Lord of these MahA Yogis , You have

linked us to the sacred collect of the AzhwArs to observe self-surrender

(SaraNAgathy) at Your divine feet and blessed us with the support stick

of these sacred collects during our journey via the path of light to Your

Supreme Abode of Sri Vaikuntam. These sacred collect of the AzhwArs serve

not only as support rod during the journey but also as the companion

during that special journey to Your Supreme Abode.

 

The Fourth Rg Veda Manthram ( V.30.15)

******************************************************

Chathu: Sahasram gavyasya pasccha: pratyakbheeshma rusamEvagnE

garmAscchitthataptha: pravrujE ya aaseedh ayasmayastamvAdhAma viprA:

 

(General Meaning ): Oh Supreme Lord ! We have now recieved the trasure

of Jn~Anam ( the sacred collect of four thousand) from the MahA Yogis and

recognize them as the shining havis (sacrificial offering ) in the homa kuntam of

their minds . Through a study of these sacred collect , we engage in the enjoyment

of the auspicious attributes of the Lord ( Bhagavath GuNAnubhavam) and feel

comforted like one who gets relief from the scorching heat of summer by

dipping in the cool waters of the mountain brook . We develop the Jn~Anam

that the Chith-achith visishta Brahmam is the only doctrine and spend this

life on earth as Ubhaya VedAnthis.

 

NamO Veda PurushAya ,

 

Oppiliappan Koil V.Sadagopan

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Sadagopan Swami:

 

Isn't it a bit of stretch to say that Divya Prabandam is mentioned in

the Rig Veda? Most of the scholars acknowledge that Rig Veda

is much older than most of the religious writings in the World

and dates back to a time before 2000 BC. Tamil Vedas were sung only

about 1300 years ago. I think that the Rig Vedam mentions an

abridged version of the vedam that existed even before the Rig

Vedam; or it glorifies a part of Rig Vedam itself; thus it reflects

an ancient memory.

 

Otherwise I enjoyed what you have to write.

 

In the same way that you see Divya Prabandam in Rig Veda, we can see

the origins of Ramayanam also in Rig Vedam as Sri Nilakanta

discovered.

 

Dasan,

RTV Rajan

 

 

, Sadagopan <sgopan@c...> wrote:

>

> Sri:

>

> Sri RanganAtha ParabrahmaNE Nama:

>

> The Temple raffle for realizing the two living quarters for

> the Priests of the Temple is moving slowly . We have sold

> 650 tickets sofar out of the 2,000 tickets that need to be sold.

>

> Meanwhile , two SalakshaNa GhanapAtis ( Reciters of Vedam

> in the Ghanam style) have arrived as new priests and

> are carrying on their kaimakryams to Lord Ranganatha

> at the temple with vigor and intense devotion .

>

> Among the three priests that we have , all are experts in Yajur

> Vedam recitation and two of the three are GhanapAtis . One of

> the three is an expert in reciting the Four thousand sacred

> collect ( NaalAyira Dhivya Prabhandham ).

>

> We therefore have the truly Ubhaya VedAntha tradition of

> offering worship to Lord RanganAtha as has been done for

> thousands of years at Srirangam . The Lord hears daily

> the Sanskrit Vedam and AzhwArs' moving Tamil Vedams .

> The UBHAYA VEDANTHA Tradition is thus scrupulously

> maintained at the Lord's house at Pomona , NY .

>

> WHAT IS UBHAYA VEDANTHAM ?

> ************************

> Professor Vasudha Narayanan has written extensively about this

topic in

> her monograph on " Tamil Veda ( 4000 Sacred Collect )" . It is " a

theology

> and a dual VedAntha tradition based on both Sanskrit and Tamil

VedAs " .

> Sanskritized Tamil (ManipravALam ) was used by the commentators of

the 4000

> sacred collect of the Azhwars . The SthOthrAs of VaishNavite

> Ubhaya VedAntha AchAryAs like Naatha Muni , AlavanthAr ,

> RaamAnuja , KurEsar, Swamy Desikan and others were

> inspired by both the Sanskrit VedAs and the Tamil VedAs .

>

> ANCIENT RG VEDAM REFERS TO THE 4000 SACRED COLLECT

>

*********************************************************************

**********

> The 4000 sacred collect ( NaalAyira Dhivya Prabhandham ) is

> certainly younger than the ancient VedAs and major Upanishads.

> It is fascinating however to find that the oldest of the VedAs ,

> Rg Veda , saluting the 4000 sacred collect of Mahaa Jn~Anis (Yogis)

> through four of its Mantraas . These mantraas refers expressly to

> " ChathvAri SahasrA " ( the Four Thousand Collect ) . The

prescient

> Rg Veda Manthrams point out that the Four Thousand collect

> blessed by great Jn~Anis ( AzhwArs) remove our nescience

> (Ajn~Anam) and grow our Jn~Anam and through that process

> banish our painful samsAric afflictions. Let us now study each of

> these four Rg Veda manthraas (V.30.12--15) .

>

> The First Rg Veda Manthram ( V.30.12)

> ************************************************

> Bhadramidham rusmaa AgnE akrangavaam CHATHVAARI dhadhatha: SAHASRAA

> ruNamchayasya prayatA magAni pratyagrabheeshma nruthamasya nruNAm

>

> ( General Meaning): Oh Resplendent , Self-luminous One ( Svayam

JyOthi) !

> The MahA Jn~Anis ( the AzhwArs steeped in Your guNa anubhavams )

> have blessed us with the 4000 Sacred Collect to grow our knowledge

of

> the three tatthvAs (Sentients , Insentients and Iswaran and the

integral

> relation between these three tatthvAs) . This knowledge has been

> bequeathed to us as our family treasures ( Kula dhanam) by these

Mahaa Yogis.

> We welcome and recieve them with gratefulness and recognize them as

> the special gifts given to us through Your mystic Saints (AzhwArs)

in Your role

> as the bamisher of our three debts and as our indisputable Master

(Sarva Swamy).

>

> ChAndhOgya Upanishad ( 5.24.3) refers to the growth of this

Jn~Anam

> from the clear understanding of the instructions of Ubhaya

VedAntham

> and states that the beneficiaries have their Paapams and PuNyams

burnt

> thoroughly just as the swift moving fire burns the dried grass

> in the fields . ANdal refers to this in THiruppAvai ( Theeyinil

> thoosAhum ).

>

> The Second Rg Veda Manthram( V.30.13)

> *******************************************************

> SupEsam maava srujantyastham gavaam sahasrai: rusmAsO AgnE

> theevrA indhramamandhu: suthAsOakthOrvyushtou paritakmyAyA:

>

> (General Meaning): Oh PurushOtthamaa! The great Jn~Anis ( AzhwArs)

> have given us as gift this great palace made up of the sacred

collect of

> Four Thousand . We are blessed. These sacred collect of their

Bhagavath

> GuNa anubhavams gladdens the Lord , who resides in the temple of

our

> heart lotuses ( as antharyAmi Brahmam) and at the same time drives

away

> the darkness of the night of SamsAram and brings in the bright

dawn of

> Jn~Anam about the three cardinal tatthvams.

>

> The Third Rg Veda Manthram (V.30.14)

> **************************************************

> Oucchathsaa rAthree paritakmyA yaagum ruNamchayE rAjani rusmAnaam

> athyO na vaajee raghurajyamAnO BhabhruscchathvAryasanathsahasrA

>

> ( General Meaning): Oh Self-effulgent Lord ! When You the

deliverer from

> all debts are invoked ( through the Sacred collect of four

thousand eulogies

> of the 12 AzhwArs ) , the frightful night of SamsAram transforms

itself into

> the bright dawn of Jn~Anam . As the Lord of these MahA Yogis , You

have

> linked us to the sacred collect of the AzhwArs to observe self-

surrender

> (SaraNAgathy) at Your divine feet and blessed us with the support

stick

> of these sacred collects during our journey via the path of light

to Your

> Supreme Abode of Sri Vaikuntam. These sacred collect of the

AzhwArs serve

> not only as support rod during the journey but also as the

companion

> during that special journey to Your Supreme Abode.

>

> The Fourth Rg Veda Manthram ( V.30.15)

> ******************************************************

> Chathu: Sahasram gavyasya pasccha: pratyakbheeshma rusamEvagnE

> garmAscchitthataptha: pravrujE ya aaseedh ayasmayastamvAdhAma

viprA:

>

> (General Meaning ): Oh Supreme Lord ! We have now recieved the

trasure

> of Jn~Anam ( the sacred collect of four thousand) from the MahA

Yogis and

> recognize them as the shining havis (sacrificial offering ) in the

homa kuntam of

> their minds . Through a study of these sacred collect , we engage

in the enjoyment

> of the auspicious attributes of the Lord ( Bhagavath GuNAnubhavam)

and feel

> comforted like one who gets relief from the scorching heat of

summer by

> dipping in the cool waters of the mountain brook . We develop the

Jn~Anam

> that the Chith-achith visishta Brahmam is the only doctrine and

spend this

> life on earth as Ubhaya VedAnthis.

>

> NamO Veda PurushAya ,

>

> Oppiliappan Koil V.Sadagopan

[Guest guest]

SrI :

 

Dear Sri Rajan :

 

This essay was posted with the awareness of

the dates ascribed to AzhwArs by modern day scholars

(5th to 9th Century C.E). AmudhanAr's date is post-Raamanuja

( 11th to 12th century C.E) .

 

The reference to "ChathvAri Sahasram" and "Rusmaa "

attracted my attention among the Rg Veda Manthrams

that I quoted . That is very appropriate reference point to

take off on a reflective flight . It is indeed a meaningful

stretch .

 

You are surely familiar with the reference of Sukha

Brahmam in Srimath BhAgavatha slOkam about the future

avathArAms of great Jn~Anis(AzhwArs) on the banks of

TaamrabharaNi , Cauvery et al.

 

NamO Veda PurushAya ,

V.Sadagopan

 

 

 

>

>

>

> Dear Sri Sadagopan Swami:

>

> Isn't it a bit of stretch to say that Divya Prabandam is mentioned in

> the Rig Veda? Most of the scholars acknowledge that Rig Veda

> is much older than most of the religious writings in the World

> and dates back to a time before 2000 BC. Tamil Vedas were sung only

> about 1300 years ago. I think that the Rig Vedam mentions an

> abridged version of the vedam that existed even before the Rig

> Vedam; or it glorifies a part of Rig Vedam itself; thus it reflects

> an ancient memory.

>

> Otherwise I enjoyed what you have to write.

>

> In the same way that you see Divya Prabandam in Rig Veda, we can see

> the origins of Ramayanam also in Rig Vedam as Sri Nilakanta

> discovered.

>

> Dasan,

> RTV Rajan

>