veda and nalaiyram

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Dear Sri Narayanan and Sri Varada Rajan :

 

Thanks for your notes . Your points about the

date synchronization problems between the most

ancient VedA (Rg) and more recent Dhivya

Prabhandhams are well understood , anticipated

and respected . Thirumangai was indeed a real local king

who lived in the 9th century. Swamy NammAzhwAr

incarnated few centuries earlier ( some say at the beginning

of Kali Yugam ; His disciple Madhura Kavi was here

and lived towards the end of DhwApara Yugam and the

beginning of Kali Yugam . The dating of AzhwAr's avathAra

time is a tug of war between traditionalists & modern day

researchers like Sri Vyaapuri PiLLai et al. I did not want to

get into those controversies , although I lean towards

all AzhwArs being born between 5th and 9th centuries .

 

The eternal VedAs have a way of looking at some things

and commenting on them elliptically some times . The persistent

reference to " ChathvAri Sahasram " and the mentioning of

Rusmaa in the same manthrams inspired me to intrepret

the way in which I connected the information points.

 

Indeed , the word Chathwari is often found in Vedic parlance.

ChathwAri Sahasram is 4,000 . Among the four manthrams,

we come across reference to " Chathu: Sahasram gavaam "

( Four thousand cows or words of wisdom).

 

The "Go " sabdham in Vedic usage has many meanings :

(1) Cow (2) Divine speech (3) Jwalai (4) BhUmi (5) Victory

(6) Flight (7) JnanakkaNN / wisdom eye / the inner eye /

dhivya chakshus (8) Speeding arrow and (9) Moksham.

 

The path of Moksham described by the MahA Jn~Anis

(AzhwArs who were yet to be born ) thru their 4000 sacred

utterances (NaalAyira dhivya Prabhandham) realized from their

Yoga Balam and Jn~Ana Chakshus for the benefit of

SamsAris falls then in place . The birth of these great path

revealers is what I was commenting upon with a little bit

of poetic license .

 

This fits in with another general prayer housed in Yajur Vedam :

 

" Aaa Brahman BrahmaNO Brahmavarchasee jAyatAmA RaashtrE - - "

Yajur Vedam : XXII.22

 

( O Supreme Lord ! May there be born in this nation , the learned

intellectuals , illustrious for their sacred knowledge ).

 

That is all !

 

V.Sadagopan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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"Rajagopalan Narayan" <rajagopalannarayan

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Sunday, November 21, 2004 11:28 AM

veda and nalaiyram

 

 

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> Respected colleagues,

> recently our illustrious colleague sri.satagopan swamy had mentioned in an

> article that the nalayiram has been indicated in the srutis.Tgis loks

> farfetched .apart fron the antiquity of the vcic age and preceeding the

> prabandam period, it is our understanding that the nazhwar pasurams are

> veda sruthi in tamil which can be recited by all chathur varnamen and

> womenobviously the prabandams come latter.

> Further by convention the nalayiram is 4000y inclusion of

> ramanujaandadi=not an azhwar pasuram.The no.4000 again depends on how one

> counts the no. of some of the pasurams like the madal, thiruverrirukkai

> etc/

> Perhaps the puranas predict the futyue appearance os azhwars and their

> works,Do the vedas make such predictions?please excuse my ignorance,

> adiyen dasan narayanan

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