Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 --- Message: 1 > Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:01:51 +0530 > Padmanabhan <aazhwar > thiruppAvai 25 > HOW ARE YOU THE LOSER? >> The reply was " If mother's milk cannot spring from > her and He does not drink milk" are you the loser? > 'avaLukku mulai suravA ninradhAgil, ivan amudhu > mulai vuNNA ninRAnAgil, vumakkuch chEdham en?' > In fact, this kind of reply is a rarity but > intersting. > (to be continued) > vanamamalai padmanabhan Dear Member, It is not clear from the above what exactly Bhattar meant, though the question posed to him seems reasonable enough. Request you to please elaborate. Would also like to appreciate that bit you call is a "rarity and interesting". Thank you, respectfully, dAsan, Sudarshan ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Dear SwAmi, Usually sri bhattar reply will be in a manner where the essence of the doubt is clarified precisely. For example, when somebody asked in the context of the thiru-vioi-mozhip pAsuram "AnAllan, pen allan", What is the gender of the Lord then? kindly refer to EDu for thiru-voi-mozhi pAsuram 2-5-10; sri bhattar incisively clarified that He is the supreme purushothaman the paramAthmA in contrast to the jEvAthmAs. However, here instead of such repliy, the reply is" How are you the loser?..vumakkuch sEdham en?" This is rare as when we see sri bhattar's precise clarificiations, such type of replies are rare. The cynical reply makes this interesting. Perhpas, the quesitoner might have asked not with a view of getting clarification but with a view of finding fault or finding contradictions.(of course this is my conjecture) Thank YOu rAmAnuja dAsan vanamamalai padmanabhan - sudarshan madabushi Oppiliappan Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:23 PM Re: Bhattar --- Message: 1 > Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:01:51 +0530> Padmanabhan <aazhwar (AT) vsnl (DOT) com>> thiruppAvai 25> HOW ARE YOU THE LOSER?>> The reply was " If mother's milk cannot spring from> her and He does not drink milk" are you the loser?> 'avaLukku mulai suravA ninradhAgil, ivan amudhu> mulai vuNNA ninRAnAgil, vumakkuch chEdham en?'> In fact, this kind of reply is a rarity but> intersting.> (to be continued)> vanamamalai padmanabhanDear Member,It is not clear from the above what exactly Bhattarmeant, though the question posed to him seemsreasonable enough. Request you to please elaborate.Would also like to appreciate that bit you call is a"rarity and interesting".Thank you,respectfully,dAsan,Sudarshan______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner onlineGo to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Sri: Dear Sri Padmanabhan and Sri Sudarshan Swamins, The almost same question and answer dialog as in Thiruppavai pasuram 25 is given in Periya Thirumozhi (pasuram 5-10-7) vyakhyanam. Bhattar is quoted as saying "avarkaLukku mulai suravA ninRathAkil ivan anjA ninRAnAkil umakku ivvArAycchi enthAn?" I think the use of the word "ArAycchi" here rather than the word "sEtham" perhaps makes it clear what Bhattar's intent is. It appears that Bhattar is pointing out that there is no need to do intense research on who Krishna's true mother was, who gave milk to Him and why, etc. It is best to simply enjoy the Lord's acts as explained by Azhvars and Acharyas. You can see the translation of the whole dialog between Nanjeeyar (who asked the question) and Bhattar at http://www.acharya.org/articles/aditlooa/aditlooa068.html adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan --- Padmanabhan <aazhwar wrote: > Dear SwAmi, > > Usually sri bhattar reply will be in a manner where the > essence of the doubt is clarified precisely. > > For example, when somebody asked in the context of the > thiru-vioi-mozhip pAsuram "AnAllan, pen allan", What is > the gender of the Lord then? kindly refer to EDu for > thiru-voi-mozhi pAsuram 2-5-10; > > sri bhattar incisively clarified that He is the supreme > purushothaman the paramAthmA in contrast to the > jEvAthmAs. > > However, here instead of such repliy, the reply is" How > are you the loser?..vumakkuch sEdham en?" > > This is rare as when we see sri bhattar's precise > clarificiations, > such type of replies are rare. > > The cynical reply makes this interesting. Perhpas, the > quesitoner might have asked not with a view of getting > clarification but with a view of finding fault or finding > contradictions.(of course this is my conjecture) > > Thank YOu > > rAmAnuja dAsan > vanamamalai padmanabhan > - > sudarshan madabushi > Oppiliappan > Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:23 PM > Re: Bhattar > > > > --- Message: 1 > > Sun, 09 Jan 2005 07:01:51 +0530 > > Padmanabhan <aazhwar > > thiruppAvai 25 > > HOW ARE YOU THE LOSER? > >> The reply was " If mother's milk cannot spring from > > her and He does not drink milk" are you the loser? > > 'avaLukku mulai suravA ninradhAgil, ivan amudhu > > mulai vuNNA ninRAnAgil, vumakkuch chEdham en?' > > In fact, this kind of reply is a rarity but > > intersting. > > (to be continued) > > vanamamalai padmanabhan > > Dear Member, > It is not clear from the above what exactly Bhattar > meant, though the question posed to him seems > reasonable enough. Request you to please elaborate. > Would also like to appreciate that bit you call is a > "rarity and interesting". > Thank you, > respectfully, > > dAsan, > Sudarshan > > > > > ______________________ > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony > > > > > > > Links > > > Oppiliappan/ > > b.. > Oppiliappan > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > > > > Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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