Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Sri Parthasarathi thunai Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha Srimad Vara Vara MunayE namaha Sri Vanachala mahA munayE namaha Our Sri Ramanuja siddhAntham strongly believes in “mithuna sEshatvam” (all jeevatmas are servants to the divine couples). What is the main role of piratti? She does purushakaram (talks in favour of the poor soul and lessens the anger of emperuman, thereby overcoming his svathantriyam (independence) and making him accept the jeevatma into his divine feet.) In the seventeenth paasuram, andal due to her great thirst to enjoy krishnAnubhavam directly awoke krishna. But then she realized that in the time of surrendering it is necessary to fall to the divine feet of piratti first and with her support then approach the lord. In ayppadi the piratti close to emperuman was nappinnai (neela devi) and hence in the eighteenth paasuram “vundu madhakalitran” andal awakens nappinai piratti. If in paramapadam we have to first fall to the divine feet of all the three devis, Sri, bhoo and neela. In the vyahAvatara, in ksheerAbhdhi we have to first surrender to the divine feet of Sri and bhoo devis. In ramavatara, Sita piratti was the purushakara bhoothai (“aval sannadhiyAlE kAkam thalipeRRadhu aval ellamaiyAlE ravanan madindhAn” Inspite of the great sin kAkasuran did due to the grace of Sita devi he lost only his eyes. But since piratti was not near chakravarthi thirumagan during the Rama-Ravana yuddham ravana lost his life). In varahAvatara, bhoo devi alone is the purushakArabhoothai. Whereas in krishnavatara when krishna was in gokulam nappinai alone was his divine consort. Krishna cherished to be the son of nandagopan and hence his divine consort also cherished to be called as the daugher-in-law of nandagopan and hence andal calls her as “nandagopalan marumagalE” Nandan was liked by everyone in gokulam that is why these small gopis take the liberty to call him by name as if he was their close friend. In gokulam all were bhagavatas there was absolutely no age or sex differentiation. What they all wanted was krishnAnubhavam. They will do anything for the sake of their dear krishna. That is why andal and the gopis go in front of each and every house to awaken everyone to jointly enjoy krishnAnubhavam. This very paasuram is very near to the heart of Swamy emperumanar, ThiruppAvai jeeyer. (To be continued) Azhvar emperumAnAr Jeeyer thiruvadigalE sharaNam Adiyen ramanuja dAsee Sumithra Varadarajan _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Dear List Members : We enjoy very much the postings of Srimathi Sumithra Varadarajan of ThiruvallikkENi on AzhwAr AruLiccheyalkaL. We welcome her to continue with her postings . Here is an observation for the record regarding her comments in today's on " the Main role of PirAtti " (Please see below ) . - "Sumithra Varadarajan" <Sumivaradan <vanamamalai>; <ramanuja> Cc: <oppiliappan> Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:02 AM Sri Vishnuchitta kulanandana kalpavalli (Part-31) > Our Sri Ramanuja siddhAntham strongly believes in “mithuna sEshatvam” (all > jeevatmas are servants to the divine couples). What is the main role of > piratti? She does purushakaram (talks in favour of the poor soul and > lessens the anger of emperuman, thereby overcoming his svathantriyam > (independence) and making him accept the jeevatma into his divine feet.) adiyEn's coments on the role of PirAtti for the record is : The 18 points of difference between the two sampradhAyams is well known ( Please refer to Sriman Anbil Ramaswamy's excellent book on "Hinduism Discovered " for details : Pages 693-706 ) . Some are minor and others are major . The key difference between both the sampradhAyams based on Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntham is the role accorded to PirAtti in the two sampradhAyams . The above point of view to limit PirAtti just to Purushakaaram belongs to one sampradhAyam .This sampradhAyam holds that PirAtti is a special Muktha Jeevan with limited power of PurushakAram . The other sampradhAyam holds the view that She is equal to the Lord in being an UpAyam (Means for attaining Moksham) and UpEyam (Goal) beyond her accepted role as PurushakAra Bhoothai . She displays "yEkasEshithvam " and is infinite like the Lord Himself . As Dhivya Dampathis , they act in unison and there is no duality among Them . She is not a JeevAthmA but a ParamAthma as much as Her Lord . The purpose of my observation is to note these striking differences and that each one should follow their sampradhAyam , while being sensitive to the other SampradhAyam . At Oppiliappan List , which has a different role than SaraNAgathy list , we will let the readers be guided by their own SampradhAyam and AchArya Paramparai . RaamAnuja Daasan , V.Sadagopan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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