Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Dear Members, 1. Draupadi called out for Sri Krishna as a last resort, not first 2. Intent was other than an unconditional voluntary saranAgathi 3. Even if 'intent' is overlooked and the 'the act' alone considered a qualified saranAgathi, it does NOT preclude bhagavAn's Will - here we can hypothesize that Krishna upon saving Draupadi, (Willed) let her take the vow to leave the door open for a potential war (eventually) and give pAndavAs the indignation to fight (adharmA) Note - the argument "If BhagavAn's Will prevails anyway, why bother about saranAgathi?" is incorrect for How do we know BhagavAn's Intent at any given point? Can we second-guess Him? No. What if BhagavAn Willed and waited for us to come to Him first and ask for it? Seems obvious, in Draupadi's case, and gajEndrA, and for all avatAras. 4. sarva DharmAn parithyajya mAm Ekam charaNam vraja | aham tvAm sarva pApEbhyO mOkshayishyAmi mA suchaha || If one abandons other upAya and simply surrenders unconditionally and willfully, to Sri Krishna, He affords protection from all sins - committed thus far - but no such guarantee seems to be indicated implicitly or explicitly for any automatic change in ones intrinsic gunA, after saranAgathi So I don't think it is correct to expect that post prappati or saranAgathi, one would automatically become immune to non-sAtvic behavior, after coming across Bhagavan's raksha / dayA / anugraham - willingly or otherwise For E.g. - RAvanA, though he never even thought of saranAgathi, was given a last chance in the battlefield, but he did not take it to surrender and instead fought to death. Apparently, direct contact with (Sri Sita first and) Sri Rama had no good effect on him whatsoever, unlike Vibhisana. So, either way, choosing to surrender or not to, per se, does not seem to DEFINITELY result in an AUTOMATIC change in character subsequently. I suppose it could, but does not have to. We'll continue to remain what we are, and will have to bear the consequences to the extent that perumAl had given an undertaking to kindly *overlook* our past sins and (perhaps some future *un-intentional minor transgressions*). The only change we can expect in our attitude is having surrendered wilfully, we might better be more careful and cautious to follow proper dhArmA and not commit further pApams, so as not to lose the advantage of having expiated the past sins. Please feel free to correct / comment on adiyEn's opinions. dAsan, Sriram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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