Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 > Dear srivaishNava perunthagaiyeer, > > Many a times while dealing with government departments, we are tossed up and down the staircases of the buildings to get a > '> stamp> '> affixed in our documents, even after the concerned officers have signed the papers. Not only tossing, some greasing must also be done to avoid further harassment at those hands which are putting the stamp. > > Since many of our readers have travelled to US and other places from India, they, very well know, just to put a visa stamp, an immigration stamp, etc, how many hours and money they have to spend. Without such stamps, they cannot just get out of the airport where they landed. So that is the greatness of the > '> stamp> '> affixed in their papers? > > Even a simple letter written from father, at one place, to son, in a different place, has to carry a stamp of the government, called postal > '> stamp> '> , then only it will be carried and delivered to the son. Our respected Sri Sadagopan also came out with a request for the > '> stamp> '> to all fraternity of the lists recently, the nature of his request being very very rare. > > See here, in periyaazhvaar thirumozhi, this paasuram [or verse] talks about that > '> stamp> '> ilachchinai. Hence I am sharing with you all. > > oru kaalil sangu oru kaalil chakkaram uLLadi poRiththu amaintha > iru kaalum koNdu angu ezhudhinaarpOl ilachchinai pada nadanthu > perugaa ninRa inba veLLaththin mEl pinnaiyum peidhu peidhu > karu kaark kadal vaNNan kaamar thaadhai thaLar nadai nadavaanO > 1-7 6 - periyaazhvaar thirumozhi - thodar sangilikai padhikam > > meaning as given sri madhavak kaNNan swamy of simhapuri [singapore] [ref bhakthi list archives - july 2002] > > quote - kaNNan- who is of dark, blue hued, the ocean like colour; who is the father of manmathan (Pradhyumnan); marks the places where He walks with sanghu and chakkaram, which are there in His feet. Oru kaalil sanghu; oru kaalil chakkaram. Thereby the entire place is full of sanghu and chakkaram marks on the ground. May he walk faltering steps, further more, giving (us) lots of aanandham! When KaNNan walks there is great amount of joy! When the marks of sanghu, chakkaram are seen, wherever He walks, the joy is immeasurable! It is rain of joy! Anandha varsham! He is dark coloured like the blue dark ocean and hence gives rise to rains (of joy!). - unquote. > [small change made as chakkaram, which is my style than MKswamy> '> s chakra] > > Ok - a doubt comes now - please do not conclude immediately - > '> hey these two objects or things, the conch and the discus, are supposed to be in hands, how is that, it is said now they are in feet, means not in hands, their original place? Shifted for some reason?> '> - Dear fraternity - that is not my doubt no 1. But if you take it that way, well. Ok. > > In the first line, it is said > '> oru kaali sangu, oru kaalil chakkaram uLLadi poriththu amaintha iru kaalum koNdu> '> - the two feet - > one having sangu > '> mark> '> - conch mark, > another feet has chakkaram > '> mark> '> - discus mark > while my kutty child krishNa walks, these two marks are being stamped on the ground and seen all over and along wherever he walks. That is the meaning given. > > '> oru kaali sangu, oru kaalil chakkaram amaintha iru kaalum koNdu> '> - it is clear that the two legs have these marks - one has a conch mark and another discus mark. Then what is all this > '> uLLadi poriththu> '> . That is the real doubt no 2. > > To clear this, now, we have to re-read the same verse slightly modified - is it permitted? > Taking for granted the permission - Read on - > '> oru kaali sangu, oru kaalil chakkaram uL adi poriththu amaintha iru kaalum koNdu> '> - > oru kaali sangu, oru kaalil chakkaram - on these words not much to discuss, as already seen. So proceed to next. > '> uLLadi poriththu> '> amaintha -These must have some significance? The answer is > '> Yes> '> . > > The feet generally have a little raised portion on the inner side and flat on outer side. So when bot> h feet are placed together, the inner side has a raised portion and thus has a hollow space. As such when one foot is placed on ground, the entire surface area of the foot is not coming in contact with ground but a lesser area. That raised portion is uL adi - that uL adi has these marks of conch and discuss on the two feet. > > [and the balance portion coming in contact is veLi adi? - ok, not concerned about that doubt no 3, now - if somebody clarifies - fine] > > Those marks of conch and discus - which need not come in contact with the floor, because they are at a raised level - those uL adi - are also coming in contact with floor. Why? Doubt no 4. Answer is readily available in last line of verse - for krishNa walks > '> thaLar nadai> '> . That is why the conch and discus marks are stamped on the floor - for krishNa walks > '> thaLar nadai> '> - thaLarntha nadai - thaththakka piththakka nadai - irregular steps - staggered steps - uneven steps - for just he begins to walk - so that raised portion also comes into contact with earth and thus the stamp mark is placed on floor [or earth]. > > Why this conclusion you may ask - it is from the presence of word adi > '> poriththu> '> amaintha kaal koNdu> '> - poriththu - stamped - the legs already have these marks stamped on the skin - so it becomes easy like putting a stamp on the paper - floor paper - that conclusion is from the words - ilachchinai pada nadanthu - that word pada - touching - those marks touching the floor - ilachchinai - muththirai - stamp - available inside - hence come in contact with ground - pada nadanthu. > > Now is the major doubt no. 5. Or is it that bhoomi - that lady earth raised herself at every opportunity to get that touch of the feet of the lord - as did yamuna water to touch those feet which are described as oru kaalil sangu oru kaalil chakkaram uLLadi poRiththu amaintha iru kaalum koNdu - while father vasudhEvan was trying to cross yamuna, carrying child Krishna, just born, in the dark of the night from the prison to nandhaa> '> s place, even after very same yamuna herself consented to stand separate, leaving a royal path to that vaasudhEvan, her lord supreme. > > Or is it that the husband Krishna loves touching her lover bhoomi dhEvi with the full coverage of the feet - stamping with his unique marks - fully done in a proper manner? > > Is this THE doubt? Yes please - doubt no 5. if somebody can give an answer welcome please. > > Dhasan > Vasudevan m.g. > > [PS: Some more points on this verse, we will see in next post. May be, while reading, you find certain sentences or words are repeated, more than once - it is intentional and not a drafting mistake] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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