Guest guest Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Dear srivaishNavap perunthagaiyeer, Generally for learning any thing and everything, in olden days, people have to approach a guru, in his vaasasthalam [residing place] - pay respects to him every day when they arrive for learning [anjali - saashtaanga praNaamam or dhandam as it is called] and then start the learning process. While leaving the guru for the day, again the students have to pay respects and then leave for the day. When finally leaving the guru, after completing the course of study, they have to pay some guru dhakshiNa as per their capacity or as demanded by the guru or guru's wife. Just recall the command to sri krishNa `bring my dead son as your guru dhakshiNai', the guru pathni's askance to sri krishNa since guru saandheepani did not want anything from the lord. Generally the gurus will be `maharishis' and as such they will be living in aasramams in forests or on the riversides. So commuting from their own place or from nearby was more a difficult task in those days. As such the students carried out the gurukula vaasam method –staying in guru's place. Furthermore the teaching is through oral method – spoken by teacher repeatedly, heard by the students repeatedly and `by hearted' by the students. The vEdhaas and upanishadhs, hence, are called sruthis and smruthis. As such the learning was a little bit slow process. So the vEdhaas and upanishadhs and their rich meanings were taught over a stretched period of time, and as such were made available in the rishis' aasramams. Sometimes these vEdhaas and upanishadhs themselves were called `forests' since taught in forests, also since it is difficult to get at the meaning without searching quite a lot. Compare that with present day systems. We turn to a textbook or dictionary or encyclopedia for understanding about any new thing easily [in the previous 21st century]. Separate lexicons are available for almost all subjects. That made the learning process simple. In the 22nd century, we take even more simpler route - nowadays – do the prapaththi or take sarNaagathy route as in sree vaishNava sadhaacharam - surrender to Mr. Computer the super lord, through the aachaaryan Mr. Mouse, who operates at the command of the lord, takes us through the archiraadhi maargam for a fast moksham viz. Dr. Google. All the gnaanam - the thathva thrayam – 3 secrets – the data or matter, to be learnt, is all placed by that super lord in a flash for learning by us, the dhaasaboothaas, and the mahath aachaaryan Mr. Mouse again guides us to sift through. Without this lord and the teacher, the life has become dull these days. May be the wife's face is not seen for that particular day but not a day passes out without seeing at least once this lord and the teacher. I could hear the murmur – hey, all these are known to us. What is the point you want to give? Yes. The point is – vEdhaas and upanishadhs and their meanings were available tied to a mortar – the grinding stone - [ural] in a remote village where ignorant ladies were dominant. Now I wonder – how is that I missed this all these days – because in our house also we had a big ural – we lived in a village where many ignorant ladies were there. I could have learnt these vEdhamas and upanishadhs better and in an easy manner. Also I have to change my opinion because the verse says the vEdhams and upanishadhs are not stored in machines called computers these days, nor in rishi's brains in those forest aasramams those days. Now read the verse - varam imam upadhesam aadhriyadhvam nigama vanEshu nithaantha chaarakhinnaa: | vichinutha bhavanEshu vallaveenaam upanishadh arthham ulookhalE nibadhDham || 2-28 krishna karnaamrutham by leelaa sukhar meaning: hey folks, do not roam in the forests and get tired – forests called vEdhaas and upanishadhs – take this advice and practice – search for the `meaning' of the vEdhaas and upanishadhs, being tied to the mortar – [ural] in the houses of gOpees. Now a point arise – if we are going to search in many houses, how that `meaning', will be available in all places – for it is singular – arthham. If it is tied to one particular ural – grinding stone it is ok. Then there must be many meanings. Not one. Yes, says the author in another verse now read that verse. anthargruhE krishNam avEkshya chOram badhvaa kavaatam jananeem gathaikaa | ulookhalE dhaama nibadhDham Enam thathra api dhrushtvaa sthimithaa babhoova || 2- 51 krishna karnaamrutham by leelaa sukhar Meaning: one gopee seeing krishNa stealing butter caught him and tied to a mortar in her house. Then she upon closing the door [so as not to allow krishNa escape] went to his mother [yasOdhaa] to report. Lo! She was stunned to see krishNa tied to mortar there also. [yasOdhaa standing by side?] Now, I know you are going to ask me Sir, in the bhaagavtham only yasOdhaa tied krishNa to mortar. Now this author says in two places two different persons – one yasodhaa and another gopee – tied him. Is it correct? Let us see the answer in next post. Dhaasan Vasudevan m.g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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