[SriParakalaMatham] Vaishnavas in AP.

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Dear Sri Gopalam Karamchedu :

 

Thanks for your posting .

At one time , Thiruppathy/Thirumala was

the northern boundary of Tamizh speaking people .

Vangipuram (Vengipuram) , Saatlur (ChEtlUr? )

vamsams of AchAryaas and others advanced

Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntham . During

the disturbances of Muslim invasions , many left

for the safety of Cauvery Delta . Two of the three stalwarts

of Karnatic Music came from their villages in Rayala Seema

(St. Thyagaraja) and elsewhere in Telugu dEsam .

 

Thirumala was the magnet . Great kings like KrishNa deva Nayak

advanced the cause of VaishNavism both in Telugu speaking

land and in the Tamil Speaking land .

 

>From Telugu speaking land , VaishNavism spread onward north

to BihAr , Orissa , Bengal and RaajasthAn during AchArya RaamAnujA's

time . Today's posting by Srimans Venkataraman DhivAkar about

VaishNavam in Telugu speaking land and in BihAr would be of interest to

list members .

 

Sri RaamAnuja Daasan ,

V.Sadagopan

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"K.B. gopalam" <alamkbg

<parakalamatham>

Friday, August 12, 2005 5:29 AM

[sriParakalaMatham] Vaishnavas in AP.

 

 

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> Srimate ramanujayanamaha!

> Srimadabhinava Ranganatha Parakalamahadesikaya Namaha!

>

> The discussion regarding the Hebbar ayyangars is

> intersting.

>

> I belong to a group of Ayyangars from Telangana in

> andhra Pradesh. I only know that my forefathers came

> to this state on the invitation of The Nizam of

> Hyderbad who wanted some regular Araadhanam in the

> Vaishnavite temples in his Kingdom.

>

> We do not have marital relations with the other

> Vaishnavites in the state.

>

> There were some families who came to Andhra Pradesh

> because of teh temple at Tirumala. They are still

> known as Tirumala Vamsham and many sub groups have

> arisen out of it. Perhaps many families have come to

> Tirumala to look after the nitya Kainkaryam of Swmy at

> Tirumala.

>

> We do not belong to such Tirumala clan either.

>

> Is therea town in Karnataka by name Karamchedu or

> Karamchade?

>

> There is another surname for some of our families

> namely Aasooru. One of my elder clam man told that it

> could be Hosuru.

>

> The disinterst of the people of earlier days in

> putting anything writing has created a void in the

> micro history of some clans.

>

> I was told there is/was one Dr. Dhanammal in Mysore

> who conducted some researah into the social history of

> Vaishanavas. Is her work available anywhere to read?

>

> Interestingly we also do not speak or write Tamil!

> We follow all the traditions otherwise!

> Divya Prabandham though a necessary part of rituals is

> not very popular with us. No one knows it by heart

> perhaps. There are some who can do the Pustaka Patham.

> They also do not know the meaning of it. Even

> Tiruppavai is only a ritualistic recitation with us.

> Not many know it fully know it and understand the

> meaning. Only in major cities like Hyderabad the

> Festival and discourses in Telugu about Tiruppavai

> take place. Not in all the villages where the group is

> spread. Those elders who perform Araadhanam daily know

> it and recite it just like any other part of the

> ritual.

>

>

> Interstingly three very famous acharyas of

> parakalamatham came from this group.

>

> Elders may throw some light on this subject also just

> as they are doing about Hebbars!

>

>

> Gopalam Karamchedu