Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Dear AasthikAs : Both Srimans Sriram and Sadagopan IyengAr have given outstanding responses on what a True AchAryA's invaluable contributions are . The Great AchAryAs are compassionate , Scholarly ones and they have chosen SanyAsAsramam to help all of us , who are floundering in the forests of SamsAram . They use their knowledge of SaasthrAs and Sath SampradhAyam to guide us out of the miseries of day to day life and help us develop Bhagavath- Bhaagavatha Kaimkarya Ruchi and VairAgyam . They instill in us reverence for our ancient heritage and Vedic traditions . It is not their business to run around delivering social and Medical sevices. They are ill qualified to do this since it is more the duty of elected officials with social contracts to improve the quality of life of the poor and underserved in a material sense . We know what these politicians have done after a lot of empty promises besides enriching themselves . Should the AchAryans compete with these politicians and Philanthrophists , who have accumulated their money by fair and unfair means ? My answer is NO . The AchAryans will be swerving from their SanyAsa dharmams , if they get distracted in to these show projects for the sake of putting their Matams name in the lime light and marquees . What they do is to inculcate in the minds of their sishyAs the concepts of service to BhagavAn and all His children . The TVS Family , the Dalmias and a host of other well to do sishyAs go implement these AchArya UpadEsams and create institutions like Hospitals , Clinics , GosaalAs , feeding of the poor etc . The role of an AchAryA can never ever be replaced by hundreds or thousands of Social care givers .We can never pay back AchAryAs for the greatest UpakArams that they perform for us : (1) The AchAryan exceeds the Lord Himself in His UpakArams (2) He destroys the nescience of the ChEtanams that approach Him thru His UpadEsams (2) He destroys their sins thru His intervention and pleadings with the divine couple , whom he worships every minute of His day (3) He corrects the sishyan even if he is a MahA Paapi (4) He makes the sishyA's bhagavath anubhavam as great as His ; this raising of the level of the anubhavam of Sishyan extends also to the the fields of Aathma GuNams , anushtAnam and Jn~Anam . In the above and so many other ways , the AchAryan exceeds even the Lord in terms of showering His compassion and anugraham to the Lord . With these special ordained roles to play , why should an AchAryan enter in to the crowded market place of delivering social service thru the abandonment of His Sva-dharmam as a SanyAsi ? The True AchAryan should therefore confine Himself to the UpadEsams on Tatthvam , Hitham and PurushArTam and stay away from the ephemeral aspects of being politically correct as if He is running for office . He should leave that to the warring politiicians , who want to amass wealth by whatever means at their disposal , legal and otherwise . This ideal AchAryan should explain the distinctions between Bhakthi Yogam and Prapatthi Yogam to help a Chetanan get rid of rebirth in to this fearsome SamsAric world . He should teach the importance of MahA VisvAsam for the successful Prapatthi . He should teach the code of conduct after performing Prapathi to the dhivya damapthis. He should teach the importance of revering one's guru paramparai. He should teach the PrapannAs about the importance of not transgressing the Bhagavath SaashtrAs . He should instruct the sishyan about the doubts that could arise after Prapatthi and point out the methods ( ParihArams) for them . He should teach the sishyan about the futility of approaching the haughty wealthy instead of the Lord , who can grant all one wishes . The Sishyan should gain purity of mind , speech and Body as a result of the MahOpakAram of the AchAryan . With so many serious committment to the spiritual well being of their sishyAs , their own BhagavadhArAdhanam , NithyAnushtAnam and KaalakshEpams in intrepreting PrasTAna Thrayam and other PrakaraNa granthams , where is the time or the need for a true AchAryan to get lost in the hustle and bustle of the Market place and the other non-spiritual pursuits ? The message of a True AchAryan is Universal and eternal because it is based on the SanAtana Dharmam , which is universal and non-ephemeral . Seeking Marquee recognition in the glare of the neon lights and photo opportunity is not their line. Therefore they leave it to modern day politicans and poli AchAryAs and hasten to fulfill the codes of conduct prescribed for them in Yathi Dharma samucchayam and other older dharma Saasthrams . Srimath Azhagiya Singar ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam , V.Sadagopan - S. Sriram tiruvenkatam Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:29 AM Re: [t'venkatam] Brahminical mutts In response to the article: It is neither geographical proximity, genetic proximity norcultural proximity to which a seeker of knowledge pays homage tobut rather to philosophical proximity. Raising social standards is typically a construct ofgeographical, genetic or cultural dispositions. Where philosophical truths are held to be the highest goals,peans to these truths are the automatic disposition of those whobelong to groups of similar philosphies. Adorning a deity with jewels is such a disposition of the bhaktischool. Comparing philo/theo sophical schools with socio-religious organizationsand passing judgements on groups based on cultural & geneticproximity as the author of the article has done is meaningless. According to Sri Ramanuja:-The conception of value is determinedby the conception of the self... What an individual pursues as adesirable end depends upon what he conceives himself to be.Vedartha-Sangraha para 245. So, if one were to conceive of oneself as an inseparableattribute of Brahman, the desirable goal is moksha and the meansare bhakti & saranagati. Adorning a deity with jewels is a displayof bhakti. Setting up a school is a valid act for him whose duty asidentified by his ability leads him towards such a profession andconforms with his philosophy since doing one's duty leads one todharma one of the four pursharthas that leads one to moksha. Another way to view this is 'Social and charitable works' arewealth directed towards specific causes. Wealth is derived byperforming well one's duties. So, Narayana Moorthy, Aziz Premji et alcreate large sums of wealth for the community (geographical& cultural proximity), various members of the community supporta socio-religious organization like AMMA with their wealth. AMMAbuilds a school and an engineering college whose studentsjoin Narayan Moorthy's industry and are able to do their duties(karma yoga) and thanks to the availability of the bhakti schoolgain the knowledge(jnana yoga) which leads them to moksha (bhakti yoga). IthE yaanunnaik* koLvathu eNYNYaanRum,* enmaithOysOthi* maNivaNNa endhaay,*eythaa _nin_kazal* yaaneytha,* NYaanakkaithaa* kaalak kazivu seyyElE. 2.9.2 O my dark efullgent Lordhere is all I ask for all timesGrant me the hands of knowledgethat I may grasp your precious lotus feet. ThanksS. Sriram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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