Guest guest Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 It is now slowly becoming a pub where the loud and drunken prattles of Sandeep seem to be drowning the other voices. He seems to have a compulsive urge to keep his mouth open and a need for listeners for feeding his ego daily. This group has been hijacked. It may be better for Sandeep to open a separate for the devotees of verbal advaita to show off his intellectual genius in advaita polemics (may be after a peg or two). Thre group may be christened as "advaitaaftertwopegs". No claim for copyrights. Feel free to use it, Sandeep. I am afraid many members may leave this group if this continues. Some have already done so. I am following suit. arun Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more! Click on India Promos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 dear arun, don't you think that ramana's teaching, the knowledge of the self, results in geniune love and compassion for all? although i'm neither enlightened nor full of love for all but...this is my understanding or at least it's my hope. i can also relate to your concern about keeping the list on topic...though i felt that your post lacked compassion. i am not sure who the moderator of this list is but miles and alan seem to be compassionate devotees. i don't think there's a one type of ramana interpretation strictly from the devotional perspective. ramana could easily be seen as a nondual zen master type for the non-hindus. in a similar sense, just imagine the reaction of devout muslims at a rumi group, if you treated rumi anything different than a perfect muslim saint. to me, sandeep represents the intellectual gentleman would not dream of being disrespectul to anyone knowingly. hur RamanaMaharshi, ravi arunan <mitigator2003> wrote: > There was a time when the words of Ramana were posted and some times elaborated, in this group in a dignified manner. > > It is now slowly becoming a pub where the loud and drunken prattles of Sandeep seem to be drowning the other voices. He seems to have a compulsive urge to keep his mouth open and a need for listeners for feeding his ego daily. This group has been hijacked. > > It may be better for Sandeep to open a separate for the devotees of verbal advaita to show off his intellectual genius in advaita polemics (may be after a peg or two). > > Thre group may be christened as "advaitaaftertwopegs". No claim for copyrights. Feel free to use it, Sandeep. > > I am afraid many members may leave this group if this continues. Some have already done so. I am following suit. > > arun > > Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more!Click on India Promos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 dear friends even though i have been here only for a couple of weeks, i was happy to be on this mailing and am still happy to be on this mailing list. as i know that every posting on this list enhances my understanding of the "truth". One of the many virtues that an advaitin should practise is to try to be "non-judgemental". so lets not judge others actions, as the other is just another part of the "Self". the most modest way in which we could serve the greatness called Sri Ramana is by continuing the good work on this mailing list. keep the good work going and lets not be led off track by an occassional misunderstanding, as it is bound to happen for most of us are ignorant in one way or the other. with love towards one and all, mahesh. --- Hur Guler <hurg wrote: > dear arun, > > don't you think that ramana's teaching, the > knowledge of the self, > results in geniune love and compassion for all? > although i'm neither > enlightened nor full of love for all but...this is > my understanding > or at least it's my hope. i can also relate to your > concern about > keeping the list on topic...though i felt that your > post lacked > compassion. i am not sure who the moderator of this > list is but > miles and alan seem to be compassionate devotees. i > don't think > there's a one type of ramana interpretation strictly > from the > devotional perspective. ramana could easily be seen > as a nondual zen > master type for the non-hindus. in a similar sense, > just imagine the > reaction of devout muslims at a rumi group, if you > treated rumi > anything different than a perfect muslim saint. to > me, sandeep > represents the intellectual gentleman would not > dream of being > disrespectul to anyone knowingly. > > hur > > > > RamanaMaharshi, ravi arunan > <mitigator2003> wrote: > > There was a time when the words of Ramana were > posted and some > times elaborated, in this group in a dignified > manner. > > > > It is now slowly becoming a pub where the loud and > drunken prattles > of Sandeep seem to be drowning the other voices. He > seems to have a > compulsive urge to keep his mouth open and a need > for listeners for > feeding his ego daily. This group has been hijacked. > > > > It may be better for Sandeep to open a separate > for the > devotees of verbal advaita to show off his > intellectual genius in > advaita polemics (may be after a peg or two). > > > > Thre group may be christened as > "advaitaaftertwopegs". No claim > for copyrights. Feel free to use it, Sandeep. > > > > I am afraid many members may leave this group if > this continues. > Some have already done so. I am following suit. > > > > arun > > > > Win TVs, Bikes, DVD players and more!Click > on India Promos > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 RamanaMaharshi, Mahesh Yellai <yellai_mahesh> wrote: > > One of the many virtues that an advaitin should > practise is to try to be "non-judgemental". so lets > not judge others actions, as the other is just another > part of the "Self". > dear mahesh, good way to look at it indeed. when i read ramana's words, i feel there's freedom and tolerance not due to any deliberate effort or practice of "non-judgement" (which is just another type of judgement) but tolerance is naturally present in his teachings without any effort. i'm not undermining the noble efforts that one makes but can there be geniune non-judgement without realizing the self? hur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 On Monday, September 1, 2003 7:46 AM +0000 Hur Guler <hurg > wrote: > RamanaMaharshi, Mahesh Yellai > <yellai_mahesh> wrote: >> >> One of the many virtues that an advaitin should >> practise is to try to be "non-judgemental". so lets >> not judge others actions, as the other is just another >> part of the "Self". >> > > dear mahesh, > > good way to look at it indeed. > > when i read ramana's words, i feel there's freedom and tolerance not > due to any deliberate effort or practice of "non-judgement" (which is > just another type of judgement) but tolerance is naturally present in > his teachings without any effort. i'm not undermining the noble > efforts that one makes but can there be geniune non-judgement without > realizing the self? > > hur I think not. Morever, as materialsts it is our practice to deceive each other, so in this confusion, perhaps we are apt to judge. I like the way you put across tolerance (understanding?) by advanced being Regards, John Plum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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