If you don't care where you are, you ain't never lost

[Guest guest]

Suffering is intrisically related to the "have to"

 

I have to sort out my life.

I have to have a relationship.

I have to save this relationship.

I have to get out of this relationship.

I have to be a good parent, a good wife, a good whatever.

I have to have good health.

I have to get a pet, whether four legged or two legged, to stop being loney.

I have to kick ass

I have to save my ass from being kicked.

I have to be happy

I have to be secured, emotionally, physically.

I have to have this or that.

 

 

 

And then you move up the scale

 

I have to reach.

I have to attain.

I have to have peace of mind

I have to have enlightenment,

I have to have Self

I have to have Satchitanand

I have to be seen as having got Satchitanand.

 

I have to help others get Satchitanand, so that if even if one of them says

Hallelujah with MY help, it will vincidcate to me my own StachitAnand.

 

 

 

And when the "haves" are not fulfilled or what happens is somewhat different to

the "focussed have"........

 

the ..."why me", erupts.

 

This was perfectly exampled by the dude Jesus on the cross.

 

"Hey Dad, why ye kick me ass", he screams on the cross ( paraphrased a bit,

indicating another "have to")

Here, he spent a good decade, spreading the good word, helping out people with

loaves, wine and getting them to rise from death,........and all he gets is

nails for breakfast.

"WHY ME?"

 

And then in the next moment relaxes in the total apperception.

And the expressing through the instrument..... "Let thy will be done".

And Christ was born.

 

 

All "have to" have ceased, not because there was a "I have to have the end of

all the have to(s), .....

 

....but a simple laugh at the absurdity of it all, at the hilarity of it all.

 

 

And the immediate relaxation.

 

As happened under the Bodhi Tree.

 

As happened around a mountain.

 

 

 

If you don't care where you are, you ain't never lost

[Guest guest]

2/10/03 10:36 AM +0530 Sandeep sandeepc (AT) bom3 (DOT) vsnl.net.in wrote:

> Suffering is intrisically related to the "have to"

I understand the problems it can give us, and thank you for warning me, but

intrinsically related, I think not. 'Have-to's are imperatives, that is the

meaning. Unless suffering is an imperative, (and if they are, why warn us not

to 'have-to'), then suffering is due to something other than imperatives.

I do what I will. This is an example of an imperative that may cause no

suffering. My bad habits are not my will, nor are they a burden to me (just

loses me friends!). I have good habits too which I cultivate when I can can be

bothered.

Maybe you are pointing to people's questing and disappointments and vain

identities, and conceptual thinking. Do they really hurt us ? I don't think

so. Losing our life or livlihoods is not suffering, because at that time we

realise we are not our bodies anyway, and that's nice after dissapointment.

I am surprised to hear that people are suffering...is it true then? The only

suffering I can think of is being deprived of friends, people who are all glad

to be there together. I have to have that.

So I will in my spiritual universe.

Regards,

John Plum