Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 > Michael L. mentioned 'If we look at the book "Talks" for example, Sri Ramana > almost never initiated any recommendation to anyone to ask "To whom do these > thoughts arise?" Therefore his advice during "Talks" took quite a different form > than his advice in "Who am I?"... Michael, I beg to offer an alternative view. Here are just a few quotations from Talks which allude to directly or indirectly to the above method...many many more can be supplied... The Self-enquiry practice laid out in 'Who am I?' can (and ideally should) be carried on throughout the day irrespective of one's outer mode. There is no need to set aside a quiet time, although many like to do so. Vichara is a potent tool in everyday life. There was no change in Bhagavan's teaching between 'Who am I?' and Talks, nor are there secret levels of understanding to be aspired to. Vichara strips the mind bare and cuts straight to the essence. Of this there is absolutely no doubt. Ultimately all must come to this. 'The particular mode in which the enquiry is to be made is lucidly set forth in Nan Yar. The mind consists of thoughts. The 'I' thought is the first to arise in the mind. When the enquiry 'Who am I?' is persistently pursued, all other thoughts get destroyed, and finally the 'I' thought itself vanishes leaving the supreme non-dual Self alone. The false identification of the Self with the phenomena of non-self such as the body and mind thus ends, and there is illumination, Sakshatkara. The process of enquiry of course, is not an easy one. As one enquires 'Who am I?', other thoughts will arise; but as these arise, one should not yield to them by following them , on the contrary, one should ask 'To whom do they arise ?' In order to do this, one has to be extremely vigilant. Through constant enquiry one should make the mind stay in its source, without allowing it to wander away and get lost in the mazes of thought created by itself. All other disciplines such as breath-control and meditation on the forms of God should be regarded as auxiliary practices. They are useful in so far as they help the mind to become quiescent and one-pointed.' (from T.M.P.Mahadevan's Introduction to Nan Yar) Talk 27: Hence enquiry (vichara) is the first and foremost step to be taken. When vichara continues automatically, it results in a contempt for wealth, fame, ease, pleasure, etc. The 'I' thought becomes clearer for inspection. The source of the 'I' is the Heart the final goal. If however the aspirant is not temperamentally suited to Vichara Marga he must develop bhakti (devotion) to an idealmay be God, Guru, humanity in general, ethical laws, or even the idea of beauty. ...In the absence of enquiry and devotion, the natural sedative pranayama (breath control) may be tried. This is known as Yoga Marga. Talk 251: D.: How is this to be done? M.: See for whom the doubts exist. Who is the doubter? Who is the thinker? That is the ego. Hold it. The other thoughts will die away. The ego is left pure; see wherefrom the ego arises. That is pure consciousness. D.: It seems difficult. May we proceed by bhakti marga? M.: It is according to individual temperament and equipment. Bhakti is the same as vichara. ....vichara is the ultimate route. Talk 390: D.: When I read Sri Bhagavan's works I find that investigation is said to be the one method for Realisation. M.: Yes, that is vichara. ...If a true seeker is advised to meditate, many may go away satisfied with that advice. But some among them may turn and round ans ask 'Who am I to meditate on an object?' Such a one must be told to find the Self. That is the finality. That is vichara. ... Vichara is the process and the goal also. 'I AM' is the goal and the final Reality. To hold to it with effort is vichara. When spontaneous and natural it is Realisation. Talk 25: 'Wherefrom do these thoughts arise?' The thoughts are spontaneous, superficial or analytical. They operate in intellect. Then who is aware of them? ...Enquiring further the questions arise, 'Who is this 'I'? Wherefrom does it come?' 'I' was not aware in sleep etc. Talk 146: The quest 'Who am I?' is the axe with which to cut off the ego. Talk 455: Again, does the world come and ask you 'why do 'I' exist? How was 'I' created?' It is you who ask the question. The questioner must establish the relationship between the world and himself. He must admit that the world is his own imagination. Who imagines it? Let him again find the 'I' and then the Self. Talk 618: See wherefrom the thought arises. It is the mind. See for whom the mind or intellect functions. For the ego. Merge the intellect in the ego and seek the source of the ego. The ego disappears. ...When thoughts arise duality is present; know it to be the ego, and seek its source. etc. -- "ekam sat vipraa bahudhaa vadanti That which exists is One; sages call it by various names." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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