Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Dear fellow list-members, I deeply enjoyed Linda Sherman's and Ben Hassine's messages on this topic and wanted to share something a little bit humorous and philosophical. I remember reading somewhere that Joseph Campbell was quoted as having said "Vegetarians are those who cannot hear the cries of plants". :-) I also recall reading in Kahlil Gibran's "The Prophet" a very wonderful segment on a related topic. The Prophet said something to the effect that when I eat any kind of food, then the prayer should be made to the spirit of that food that just I am eating your life energy so shall my life energy be eaten some day. This is also reflective of the Native American belief in which animals are killed but the hunting itself is considered a sacred act, in which one sees one's self in the animal being killed. I have read the accounts of many other spiritual authors who have eaten meat and believe that not eating the bounties and gifts given to us by God is to insult God. I have known of people here in the US who kill their own meat and eat only such meat and to me they are to be admired for their convictions. I myself have been a vegetarian since age 13 (my parents finally gave in at that point) and refuse to be any thing but vegetarian. From the time I was young I could not bear to think of punishing another living creature and taking their life. Recently I read a PETA pamphlet about the horrors of the meat-packing industry and I found myself crying. But I remind myself that there is not only one way in The Way of Life. Therefore I like to poke fun at vegetarians (including myself) and be empathetic to those who eat meat for whatever reasons. I also recall reading somewhere that Ramana Maharshi was asked about "brahmacharya", which is the commonly understood to be the celibate life of monks and nuns in mainstream Hindu culture. His answer was quite dramatic for me because he said that brahmacharya is simply to be in the state of Brahman, which is absolute reality. So he cut through all the dogma in one swift, simple reply, and this to me is the beauty of a real master. They point to the final and absolute truth which is really quite simple. This is not to say that we mustn't observe practices in our life that support movement towards the state of Union with the Highest Self, but that sometimes people use up way too much energy focusing on the means rather than the end. With best wishes for everyone, and on-going marvel at the diversity of Life, Ashish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Sri Ashish Mahajan writes that he: >wanted to share something a little bit humorous and >philosophical. In the same vein,I don't think I would be happy if a station-master at Delhi, when asked the best route to Vrindaban, replied: >sometimes people use up way too much energy focusing >on the means >rather than the end. Bhagavan was not asked to define his statement on sattvic food, which seems a pity, since he emphasised "...the regulation of diet is the best of all rules of conduct...". Now, my ego would react violently if asked to fast for more than a day, or even to eat in moderate quantities. But keeping to a vegetarian diet, it finds no more onerous than buying a ticket.In fact, I would much sooner eat cardboard than a hamburger. Though respecting the beliefs of North American Indians, I reserve the right to disagree with them. And, personally, neither think of myself, nor call myself, a vegetarian. I eat flesh whenever I feel like it. But, like human flesh and light-bulbs, haven't felt at all like it for the last 45 years.My three children have never tasted or wanted to taste, flesh. Since therefore I could easily further conform diet to an ideal,(provided it didn't involve fasting or anything approaching it!), such a valuable aid to Self-enquiry would not inconvenience me or be the slightest cause of effort or concern. I sometimes think that those who feel the necessity to poke fun at their own vegetarianism have been "got at" by carnivores, and feel guilty that they may be thought of as 'holier than thou'.I don't shrink away from the world, and -hope- the world doesn't shrink away from me, despite my outspoken bigotry on everything! With best wishes, Nasrudin http://personals..au - Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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