Keep Quiet

[Guest guest]

First off, thanks to Ben, Alan and other list members who have been

posting wonderful messages describing Self-Enquiry.

 

Here is a transcript of a Papaji Satsang that I picked off the

papaji.com website a while back. As mentioned by Alan, Swami Ram Tirth

was Papaji's uncle. During my childhood in Delhi I had heard of Swami

Ram Tirth multiple times from the elders in the household, but they did

not know of Papaji. Little did I know that some day I would meet his

nephew and his message would be etched in my heart for a long time to

come. My practice of "keeping quiet" does not involve diving into the

Heart, nor being aware of awareness. I simply let go all that is

arising. All I know is this practice has given me much peace, hope and

clarity. My experience of Life is much more positive than ever before.

I believe that more than anything it is one's devotion to these methods,

to the Teacher, to the Source that hastens our progress. Sometimes in

the West there is so much emphasis put on just the exact way in which

some yoga asana (pose) needs to be performed. If we let go of every

concept perhaps the inner force in us will then direct us how to act.

 

"If you listen to the noises of the world and not to the silences of

your soul, you will be lost." -- Conversations With God.

 

And now the message...

 

----------------

 

Keep quiet. Keep quiet. Keep quiet. I pick up this topic this morning

because I received few letters from the West, from those who have viewed

the audios and videos cassettes. So, it prompted me to speak on this, I

often speak. And this man is from Germany, who says: "Although we have

not met physically, your words on the video that I viewed, the words

were, 'Keep quiet, keep quiet, keep quiet.' I can't even tell you the

effect of these words, and what happened to me after having listened.

So, this quietness I have never read in any of the books, that I've gone

through all my life." And he says, "The teachers also don't use this

word, it's such a force, that has tremendous effect on me, and I kept

quiet." So we'll speak on this, what is this quietness and, how to,

have it or practice it.

First of all, some seven 7,000 years ago, Arjuna asked this question

to Krishna: "How to quieten the mind? It is just like wind and you

can't hold it in fist, it is so turbulent. How to control it, how to

quiet down the mind?" So, the Krishna's answer was very simple: It can

be done by detachment and, practice. These two words were very

important. Detachment or Vairagya. So how detachment can come easily,

you see? All these people, everyone, wants to enjoy sense objects, you

see. Everybody's involved; all beings are involved to enjoy objects of

the senses. Maybe seeing, hearing, smelling touching tasting, this is

all. So how to detach, our mind from this thing. And how it would

affect quietness. So when you know all these objects, will not give you

abiding peace, rest. So again and again thinking on this thing, this

thing, which I liked so much, it has not given me satisfaction. Again I

want to repeat it, again I want to repeat it, but yet I don't get peace.

So like this thing, you are creating some sort of, displeasure with

these, these things. Now you want to detach with these things, because

they have not given you peace, rest. One, Telegu saint, a poet-saint

very famous saint maybe about 500 hundred years ago. Tyagaraja was his

name. So people who are interested in the music, they know this name

very well, Tyagaraja, the king of artists singers musicians, the king of

musicians. So he says also: "sianta malaika sowkya malaidu," it's in

Telegu. "When there is no quietness, even kingdom is not going to give

you happiness." So this is what he says, so when we know theses objects

of the senses are not permanently returning us happiness, so slowly you

withdrawing your mind from these objects. Continuously, even in the

Vedas it's declared, "Yatra yatra manayadhi, tatra tatra

samadhya"--Whenever the mind goes in touch with any sense object, bring

it back, bring it back to peace, bring it back to quietness. Quieten it

down, whenever it goes, wherever it goes, be very careful and bring it

back, because you've seen the objects of the senses have not given you

peace. Therefore, this is the abhyasa, the practice, which Krishna has

told to Arjuna. Detaching, wherever the mind goes, detach it from its

respective object of the senses, again and again. So, side by side,

this is detachment now, and side by side, desire for knowledge of

Brahman, freedom, desire for freedom, both of them have to run

concurrently. Detachment of those things, which are not permanent, and

rest in that what is permanent, always. So, these have to run

concurrently, both of them. Desire for freedom, detachment from, from

the senses. And your focus on this, on Brahman, desire for attainment

of enlightenment, here and then reflecting always here from here; desire

is there, so desire once upon, once upon a time this desire has come in

your mind. You must have spent millions of years to come to give rise to

this desire for freedom. So, hear it, and then reflect always on it, and

then meditate on it. This process has to continue. Always. Because some

people say: "What will happen when we return home. Here we are alright,

because we hear everyday."

So reflection has to continue, always, you see. And then, when you

sit wherever you are, meditate on Self, on Brahman, on Truth, on peace,

on Shanti. So always you will be revolving on this thing. Among

friends also you speak about it. This is how you have to spend your

time in this universe. And those who cannot follow it, they have to

wait. Those who instantly are getting in this instant, they have

tremendous mountain as large as Himalayan mountains; these are the

merits to come to Satsang. And those who are here, they want to escape

and they want to go somewhere else, somewhere else. It means, in their

previous life, something is not very good. Karma needs, is taking them

to next birth, you see. That's why they are escaping from Satsang, you

see, some want to go away to their previous centers, that's what I'm

hearing. There they have found much peace, much happiness, much joy,

and much love from their friends. So I advise them: "Go away." This

place, this Satsang is not for those. I don't find fault with them, you

see. This is the weight of karma. They have to work some more, some

more incarnations; it doesn't matter. You can take some more. Later on

you have to arrive here in Satsang, you see. So those people who are

here in Satsang, it is not for the first time that they are coming to

Lucknow. They have merits, already, already they have done millions of

incarnations wherever they have been. So that is now compelling them to

sit for Satsang here. So, maybe very few, doesn't matter. Others have

to wait. Therefore it is not working, you see. All the saints have

declared you need, karmas, good karmas, attainment of, Satsang in

various incarnation, therefore now you have come here for Satsang, for

quietness, you see. Even Buddha had, he mentions, you see, he had quite

thousands of incarnations. He speaks about many incarnations himself to

Ananda. So, this time, last time finally when he was born as Gautam, as

Siddhartha, so then he decides, how he decided instantly to keep quiet.

One visit outside the temple, disease, old age, death, that's all. This

is how I speak about detachment, from enjoyment of objects of the

senses. Immediately one, one trip outside, decided: "No, I don't want

this kind of life." Returns back home. Now, another kind of

detachment, that's what the saints have said, what is the best

attachment for a man, house, wife, son, that's all, that is, saint

Tukaram says: "Watch the attachment: House, wife, son." All kind of

attachments, he calls wife, there is no greater attachment. With a man:

Wife. And with a woman: Husband, same thing or Prosperity, whatever you

call it. House, desire for samsara, this is house. Son, the greatest

desire of the man, to continue his lineage, so these three words

mentioned by Tukaram comprises the whole thing in this thing. So like

this the Buddha wakes up, returns. He has seen the nature of life,

withdraws comes to attachments: wife, son, palace and walks away. Keep

quiet now, under the Bodhi tree, keep quiet. So this is what, Buddha

experienced in his life and, he was free. This is keeping quiet.

Another, Kabir; he also says: Quiet down your mind, your speech,

intellect and, and then. What a topic! [Chuckle]

 

 

----Papaji

[Guest guest]

Dear Ashish,

 

May I post this transcript in the Awakened Awareness group?

 

Please let me know.

 

Yours,

 

Ben.

-

"Ashish Mahajan" <ash.mahajan

<ramanamaharshi>

Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:43 AM

[RamanaMaharshi] Keep Quiet

 

 

> First off, thanks to Ben, Alan and other list members who have been

> posting wonderful messages describing Self-Enquiry.

>

> Here is a transcript of a Papaji Satsang that I picked off the

> papaji.com website a while back. As mentioned by Alan, Swami Ram Tirth

> was Papaji's uncle. During my childhood in Delhi I had heard of Swami

> Ram Tirth multiple times from the elders in the household, but they did

> not know of Papaji. Little did I know that some day I would meet his

> nephew and his message would be etched in my heart for a long time to

> come. My practice of "keeping quiet" does not involve diving into the

> Heart, nor being aware of awareness. I simply let go all that is

> arising. All I know is this practice has given me much peace, hope and

> clarity. My experience of Life is much more positive than ever before.

> I believe that more than anything it is one's devotion to these methods,

> to the Teacher, to the Source that hastens our progress. Sometimes in

> the West there is so much emphasis put on just the exact way in which

> some yoga asana (pose) needs to be performed. If we let go of every

> concept perhaps the inner force in us will then direct us how to act.

>

> "If you listen to the noises of the world and not to the silences of

> your soul, you will be lost." -- Conversations With God.

>

> And now the message...

>

> ----------------

>

> Keep quiet. Keep quiet. Keep quiet. I pick up this topic this morning

> because I received few letters from the West, from those who have viewed

> the audios and videos cassettes. So, it prompted me to speak on this, I

> often speak. And this man is from Germany, who says: "Although we have

> not met physically, your words on the video that I viewed, the words

> were, 'Keep quiet, keep quiet, keep quiet.' I can't even tell you the

> effect of these words, and what happened to me after having listened.

> So, this quietness I have never read in any of the books, that I've gone

> through all my life." And he says, "The teachers also don't use this

> word, it's such a force, that has tremendous effect on me, and I kept

> quiet." So we'll speak on this, what is this quietness and, how to,

> have it or practice it.

> First of all, some seven 7,000 years ago, Arjuna asked this question

> to Krishna: "How to quieten the mind? It is just like wind and you

> can't hold it in fist, it is so turbulent. How to control it, how to

> quiet down the mind?" So, the Krishna's answer was very simple: It can

> be done by detachment and, practice. These two words were very

> important. Detachment or Vairagya. So how detachment can come easily,

> you see? All these people, everyone, wants to enjoy sense objects, you

> see. Everybody's involved; all beings are involved to enjoy objects of

> the senses. Maybe seeing, hearing, smelling touching tasting, this is

> all. So how to detach, our mind from this thing. And how it would

> affect quietness. So when you know all these objects, will not give you

> abiding peace, rest. So again and again thinking on this thing, this

> thing, which I liked so much, it has not given me satisfaction. Again I

> want to repeat it, again I want to repeat it, but yet I don't get peace.

> So like this thing, you are creating some sort of, displeasure with

> these, these things. Now you want to detach with these things, because

> they have not given you peace, rest. One, Telegu saint, a poet-saint

> very famous saint maybe about 500 hundred years ago. Tyagaraja was his

> name. So people who are interested in the music, they know this name

> very well, Tyagaraja, the king of artists singers musicians, the king of

> musicians. So he says also: "sianta malaika sowkya malaidu," it's in

> Telegu. "When there is no quietness, even kingdom is not going to give

> you happiness." So this is what he says, so when we know theses objects

> of the senses are not permanently returning us happiness, so slowly you

> withdrawing your mind from these objects. Continuously, even in the

> Vedas it's declared, "Yatra yatra manayadhi, tatra tatra

> samadhya"--Whenever the mind goes in touch with any sense object, bring

> it back, bring it back to peace, bring it back to quietness. Quieten it

> down, whenever it goes, wherever it goes, be very careful and bring it

> back, because you've seen the objects of the senses have not given you

> peace. Therefore, this is the abhyasa, the practice, which Krishna has

> told to Arjuna. Detaching, wherever the mind goes, detach it from its

> respective object of the senses, again and again. So, side by side,

> this is detachment now, and side by side, desire for knowledge of

> Brahman, freedom, desire for freedom, both of them have to run

> concurrently. Detachment of those things, which are not permanent, and

> rest in that what is permanent, always. So, these have to run

> concurrently, both of them. Desire for freedom, detachment from, from

> the senses. And your focus on this, on Brahman, desire for attainment

> of enlightenment, here and then reflecting always here from here; desire

> is there, so desire once upon, once upon a time this desire has come in

> your mind. You must have spent millions of years to come to give rise to

> this desire for freedom. So, hear it, and then reflect always on it, and

> then meditate on it. This process has to continue. Always. Because some

> people say: "What will happen when we return home. Here we are alright,

> because we hear everyday."

> So reflection has to continue, always, you see. And then, when you

> sit wherever you are, meditate on Self, on Brahman, on Truth, on peace,

> on Shanti. So always you will be revolving on this thing. Among

> friends also you speak about it. This is how you have to spend your

> time in this universe. And those who cannot follow it, they have to

> wait. Those who instantly are getting in this instant, they have

> tremendous mountain as large as Himalayan mountains; these are the

> merits to come to Satsang. And those who are here, they want to escape

> and they want to go somewhere else, somewhere else. It means, in their

> previous life, something is not very good. Karma needs, is taking them

> to next birth, you see. That's why they are escaping from Satsang, you

> see, some want to go away to their previous centers, that's what I'm

> hearing. There they have found much peace, much happiness, much joy,

> and much love from their friends. So I advise them: "Go away." This

> place, this Satsang is not for those. I don't find fault with them, you

> see. This is the weight of karma. They have to work some more, some

> more incarnations; it doesn't matter. You can take some more. Later on

> you have to arrive here in Satsang, you see. So those people who are

> here in Satsang, it is not for the first time that they are coming to

> Lucknow. They have merits, already, already they have done millions of

> incarnations wherever they have been. So that is now compelling them to

> sit for Satsang here. So, maybe very few, doesn't matter. Others have

> to wait. Therefore it is not working, you see. All the saints have

> declared you need, karmas, good karmas, attainment of, Satsang in

> various incarnation, therefore now you have come here for Satsang, for

> quietness, you see. Even Buddha had, he mentions, you see, he had quite

> thousands of incarnations. He speaks about many incarnations himself to

> Ananda. So, this time, last time finally when he was born as Gautam, as

> Siddhartha, so then he decides, how he decided instantly to keep quiet.

> One visit outside the temple, disease, old age, death, that's all. This

> is how I speak about detachment, from enjoyment of objects of the

> senses. Immediately one, one trip outside, decided: "No, I don't want

> this kind of life." Returns back home. Now, another kind of

> detachment, that's what the saints have said, what is the best

> attachment for a man, house, wife, son, that's all, that is, saint

> Tukaram says: "Watch the attachment: House, wife, son." All kind of

> attachments, he calls wife, there is no greater attachment. With a man:

> Wife. And with a woman: Husband, same thing or Prosperity, whatever you

> call it. House, desire for samsara, this is house. Son, the greatest

> desire of the man, to continue his lineage, so these three words

> mentioned by Tukaram comprises the whole thing in this thing. So like

> this the Buddha wakes up, returns. He has seen the nature of life,

> withdraws comes to attachments: wife, son, palace and walks away. Keep

> quiet now, under the Bodhi tree, keep quiet. So this is what, Buddha

> experienced in his life and, he was free. This is keeping quiet.

> Another, Kabir; he also says: Quiet down your mind, your speech,

> intellect and, and then. What a topic! [Chuckle]

>

>

> ----Papaji

>

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